10:02:03 From Joel Closier To Everyone: I have black box in the presentation Iam alone? 10:02:11 From Javier Serrano To Everyone: Same here 10:02:12 From JAMES LETTS To Everyone: No 10:02:15 From Dario Barberis To Everyone: Am I the online seeing black boxes? 10:02:15 From Piotr Golonka To Everyone: Same here! 10:02:28 From Piotr Golonka To Everyone: Thanx! 10:07:47 From Andreas Pfeiffer To Everyone: Is “host” in that context a machine or an insitute/lab ? 10:07:55 From Alex Iribarren To Everyone: a machine 10:08:17 From Andreas Pfeiffer To Everyone: thanks 10:08:45 From Andreas Pfeiffer To Everyone: Then 1k is not very much … 10:11:56 From Cristi Contescu To Everyone: will we be able to still get RH support on 'research' nodes (as we could previously do by installing RHEL, reproducing the bugs and providing sosreports), provided that 'research' licenses are going to be self-support? 10:12:41 From Alex Iribarren To Everyone: No, support is not included in this offer. We would need a second license with support. 10:14:02 From Joel Closier To Everyone: What means « month of successfully operating CENTOS Stream8 » as it is not used in production for physics ? 10:15:51 From Alex Iribarren To Everyone: it is in use now in many production services in IT 10:17:40 From Marc Dobson To Everyone: Not where we are more worried, which is online in the experiments. 10:19:15 From Niko Neufeld To Everyone: For LHCb Online for instance we require a system officially supported by Nvidia. AFAICS this is not the case for CS yet 10:24:25 From Piotr Golonka To Everyone: How about RHEL license for developers? 10:28:06 From Nicolas Lurkin To Everyone: One of the advantage of CC series is that it could be used at all external institutions to have an homogenous system between CERN and external users. With such license that will certainly be possible with RHEL 10:32:23 From Chris Lee To Everyone: Pretty sure these companies are in the same boat as we are… if everyone moves to CS because nobody can afford RHEL licenses, they would be shutting themselves in the foot if they don’t support CS 10:33:53 From Chris Lee To Everyone: *shooting 10:35:30 From Chris Lee To Everyone: What about building our software? Would that be considered research, since we are building the software required to do the research? 10:35:50 From Giacomo Tenaglia To Everyone: I mean we are also hiring people to do research aren't we 10:36:51 From Giacomo Tenaglia To Everyone: (therefore the systems used by HR should be considered the same) 10:37:34 From Nils Høimyr To Everyone: Well, HR and Oracle etc is considered organisational infra and not research. 10:38:25 From Chris Lee To Everyone: ATLAS stores its research data on Oracle though ;-) .. so very fine line. 10:41:14 From Nils Høimyr To Everyone: Question if RH will have a stable definition of "Research" across Run 3, Run 4 and Run 5... 10:48:03 From Thomas To Everyone: I think the goal is to go through run3, then we can re-evaluate 10:48:17 From Alex Iribarren To Everyone: MPEs 10:55:20 From Chris Lee To Everyone: Thanks Ben eta al for all the details.