AMBER PRM Weekly

Europe/Zurich
Zoom Meeting ID
93355483738
Host
Christian Dreisbach
Alternative hosts
Alexey Dzyuba, Jan Friedrich, Thomas Poschl
Passcode
03122020
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List of identified participants:

Aleksei Dziuba,  Alexander Inglessi, Martin Hoffmann, Maxim Alrxeev, Moritz Veit, Alexey Vorobyov, Eugeny MAev, Vladimir Ivanov, Stefano Levaratto, Karl Eichhorn, Eva-Maria Kabuss, Jan Friedrich, Oleg Kiselev, Fulvio Tessarotto, Igor Konorov, Alexander Vasiliev, Gerhard Mallot, martin Losekamm, Martin Zemko, Stefan Huber, Thomas Poeschl, Christian Dreisbach, Nelly Sagidova

14:00 → 14:10 Communication and Organizational Matters
Speakers: Aleksei Dziuba (NRC Kurchatov Institute PNPI (RU)) , Christian Dreisbach (Technische Universitaet Muenchen (DE)) , Jan Friedrich (Technische Universitaet Muenchen (DE))

Aleksei Dziuba: There was an email to group leaders to provide a list of AMBER paying members ASAP. It's important for the budget process for the next year.

14:10 → 14:40 Pilot-run preparations. Reports from groups
Speakers: Alexander Inglessi (NRC Kurchatov Institute PNPI (RU)) , Benjamin Moritz Veit (Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz (DE)) , Christian Dreisbach (Technische Universitaet Muenchen (DE)) , Evgueni Maev (NRC Kurchatov Institute PNPI (RU)) , Maxim Alexeev (Universita e INFN Torino (IT))

Report of run coordinator:
Alexander Inglessi:
 - Huge progress for recent days
 - Crate from EPDT for control system:
   * Arrived
   * To be placed outside of test area
   * Cables are already deployed
 - We have safety permission to operate big valve
 - Shift scheduling:
   * Jan Friedrich propose to fix shift team for first week
   * Alexander Inglessi will send e-mail
   * We have to identify a problem spots (missed persons during a night)
   * Shifts are necessary for control COMPASS detectors (at least)
   * Group tutorial for COMPASS duties will be very helpful (AI ask Jan Matushek for the help)
 - AMBER logbook
   * Though an instance of AMBER logbook was set up DAQ people propose for the pilot run still to use COMPASS one
   * Doubling is hard (have to update all scripts)
   * The data can be copied to a separate AMBER logbook after pilot run
   * 'amber_' tag foк filtering AMBER shift comments
   * COMPASS spokespersons (Bakur and Fulvio) agree to give credentials to AMBER shifters (who are not members of COMPASS)
 - A dedicated meeting for planning of installation
   * participants: Stefano Levaratto, Jan Friedrich, Alexander Ingless
   * using zoom
   * as early as possible (for example crain to install IKAR have to be ordered well in advance)

IKAR-TPC status:
Eugeny Maev:
 - Safety elements, valve, disks are mounted
 - 1 hour of pumping + washing with nitrogen
 - filled with technical (not so clean) argon of 1 bar pressure
 - big vale have some small leakage
    * 1% pressure change for 1 days
    * won't be a safety issue (Stefano)
    * to be connected to some system to capture leaked gas
 - HV tests fine
   * 25kV checked (close to operational values of 30kV)
 - readout plugged for a half of one anode plane (to the one with 2 alpha sources)
 - noise of 20 keV (as expected)
 - alpha-line is visible
   * three alpha sources^ 1 on grid + 2 on cathodes
   * not sure which one (very likely the grid one)
   * important to see cathode line to understand a gas purity (stressed by Alexey Vorobyov)
   * if put low HV to cathode the cathode alpha-line will disappear (proposed by Alexeev Vorobyov)
 - Training of TPC
   * washing with nitrogen helped so far
   * we could do 1-2 l/minute of flushing
   * Oleg Kisilev will bring a heating element (not clear when, as they are still in a delivery to GSI. Probably from Saturday to Monday)
   * moderate heating jf 100 deg C as polycarbonate became unstable at 120 deg notto damage inne structure
   * anodes themselves (but not support) were tested in PNPI (in Kudin's lab)
 - Outgassing rate of flushing
   * can be calculated by Alexander Vasiliev
   * need to know volume, pumping speed
   * data will be provided by Eugeny
 - gas line preparations
   * pumping of long live is useless as (10^-6 at the pumping edge --> 0.1 at other)
   * only flashing
   * fore vacuum pump (brought from GSI) will be suitable for this purpose
 - Safety
   * today safety group started to work
   * will be installed next to TPC at CEDAR region
   * safety system will control hydrogen / temperature / pressure/ provide slow release.
 - Mechanical safety
   * Information is provided by Stefano to a safety group
   * no response from their side
   * consider it as a positive sign
   
Silicon tracker
Christian Dreisbach:
 - work started yesterday
 - necessary cables are collected
 - test setup in preparations
 - next step to verify that all detectors are working
 - Stefan Huber helps with stand-alone DAQ
 - new fibers are in preparation (old 20m are measured to be short)
 - Antonio is working on a support structure
 - Old CEDAR cables for a temperature readout
 - Don't expect any safety issues, though the setup will be checked
 
Trigger preparation:
Moritz Veit: (see slides)
 - no major delays

ALPIDEs
Maxim Alexeev:
 - Delivery of vessel not earlier 11 of October
 - More precise planning, when  delivery date will be more clear
 - test a readout with a mosaic board
 - Oleg Kisilev and Maxim Alexeev brought necessary components
 - no clear way how to synchronize MOSAIC (no one  knows, under investigation)
 - we are waiting firmware for a New DAQ
 - next week  1st tests with a real sensors
 - cards will be also available (hopefully starting from 11 of October)
 - help from GSI
   *  three pressons
   * Oleg Kisilev is aware of planning (either starting from 11 either from 18th of October)
   * to be decided when mode information will be available
 - main detectors
   * all letters for licencing are sent to CERN authority (Magnus MAga)
   * Maxim estimates a licence granting in March-May of next year
   * no visible problems, but rather a bureaucratic delays
   * the decision about amount of chips should be done by AMBER management
 - electronics for main DAQ (Igor Konorov)
   * no improvement in qa sense of delivery time (still 52 weeks)
   * likely the problem will stay for 2022 --> order ASAP!!
 - Interfaces of ALPIDEs a modified for a high speed
 
14:40 → 15:00 Possible layouts and configurations for a spectrometer part
Speaker: Martin Kurt Hoffmann (University of Bonn (DE))

A long discussion about how to operate COMPASS

Conclusions made by Jan Friedrich (no objections from others):
 - Likely the choice will be a scale down magnets
 - don't move detectors
 - it was agreed that 2 SciFi will go to a CEDAR region, but this still have to be clarified
 - Other SciFi's should be in operational
 - Martin will be available to check in simulations:
   * a cut on trigger
   * limit a Q2 range to see its impact
 - 2 step analysis in a beginning (match track reconstructed with Si with track in COMPASS)
 - efficiency of this track-finding to be understood

Alexey Vorobyov:
 - worst case we will have 5% accuracy of Q2 calibration with scattered muon
 
Moritz proposed:
 - Ask COMPASS to grant couple of hours to measure 100 GeV beam with cool plates (?)
 - Christian can have a look on this spectra (but no time for analysis)
 - Jan Friedrich will contact Jan Matushek, COMPASS spokespersons as well as target people to ask is this test possible
 

15:00 → 15:10 Computing resources for the pilot-run
Speaker: Aleksei Dziuba (NRC Kurchatov Institute PNPI (RU))

Aleksei Dziuba:
 - What are our resources in terms of data storage and computing?
 - Aleksei will contact Vincent and Catharina on a topic
 

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