Madgraph5 GPU development - !!! 4pm CET !!!

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513/R-070 - Openlab Space (CERN)

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Madgraph5 GPU development
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# Madgraph dev meeting (Mon 14.11.2022)

Present: SR, ZW, JT, AV, OM, NN, TC

## Presentation by OM on portability frameworks

OM presents the slides attached to the agenda.
He comments on the paper presented by Taylor last week, https://arxiv.org/abs/2203.09945

TC: sherpa (blockgen) has both cuda and kokkos, initially was cuda

SR: one more external group is LHCb HLT, they just have one header file to abstract CUDA and HIP, 
they are similar to use in that they use very little functionality

## Presentation by TC on portability frameworks

AV: would not agree that cuda is difficult to learn... code looks much easier than kokkos, especially
Also gives a better idea of what goes on behind the scenes, less of a black box

AV by chat: "thanks Olivier and Taylor for the presentations, sorry I will need to leave soon. Two very quick comments. One, I do not agree that CUDA is difficult to learn: if I look at Taylor's (very nice!) slide, especially kokkos looks very very complex, cuda seems much easier. Two, I would separate the portability of different GPUs and the portability of doing both CPUs and GPUs; in particular I would try to understand which functionality we are taking about. Namely, on CPU we need vectorization and I still do not see this here. But also, thread pools in CPUs and GPUs are quite different, my take is that in the c++ native implementation we have not even really looksed at multithreading, instead on GPUs the threads are something we need all the time."

[AV leaves, end of notes - discussion continues]

 

There are minutes attached to this event. Show them.
    • 4:00 PM 4:10 PM
      News 10m
    • 4:10 PM 4:30 PM
      Topical discussion 20m
      Speakers: Olivier Mattelaer (UCLouvain) , Taylor Childers (Argonne National Laboratory (US))
    • 4:30 PM 4:50 PM
      Round table 20m
    • 4:50 PM 5:00 PM
      AoB 10m