• In the past the AARC and AARC2 projects were funded by the European Commission (EC) partially based on input from FIM4R
• There is a new EC call where we may be granted an "AARC3" project
• What should be in it? Feedback requested from FIM4R
• Expected output so far
  • New versin of the AARC BPA (Blueprint Architecture) focusing on Authorisation 
  • Continuation of policy activities
  • Support the adoption of AARC Guidelines by Research Communities
  • Compendium of Research and Education AAI practices -> input from FIM4R very much appreciated here
• We need to be more inclusive than FIM4R, we need to get more input from other communities
• How do we get in contact with these other communities? 
  • EOSC?
  • We have tried many times in the past without success
• Tommi says that the complex part now is the Authorisation, this is a use case that would appreciate our help
• Petr says that a funded project may help engage new communities. AARC did well in this the first time round but EOSC Future is not so successful.
• DavidG says it's a very imbalanced playing field. Of all the clusters in EOSC only 2 could actually integrate in the EOSC AAI. 
• DavidG says that maybe assurance from IdPs doesn't make sense. Perhaps it should be added from other sources.
• Licia says IdPs are not suitable to provide many things (e.g. authorisation and assurance). We must decrease our reliance on them. Strugging to get much information delivered by IdPs in other projects. Brings new challenges e.g. who will fund authorisation providers?
• Jos says that libraries can play a role 
• What does Licia need now for the proposal?
  • Input to the Excellence section, i.e. how we can help overall objective of RI interoperability
  • Finalise list of partners (e.g. SURF)
    • Elixir (or EOSC Life) may make sense to join but there's few people

Actions

• Reach out to previous FIM4R Communities and see whether they have solved everything or not