Name: WLCG DOMA BDT Meeting
Start: 2023-02-15T16:30:00+01:00
End: 2023-02-15T17:30:00+01:00
Location: No location set

- 16:30 → 16:40
  News 10m
  
  Minutes
  NOTES
  Rucio rough development plan for tokens
  March - document with details how to integrate tokens with Rucio according WLCG AuthZ design
  summer - implementation of deletions with tokens
  by end of 2023 - tested / production quality interaction with FTS using tokens (ready to be deployed)
  rucio download / upload workflow most probably after DC24
  CLI user interaction not yet well defined even by WLCG AuthZ group
  Rucio mini-challenges tests done before DC24
  we can use existing token implementation in Rucio => don't wait till the end of 2023 with token tests
  configure tokens directly on our production instances(?)
  ESCAPE testbed - this will be discussed tomorrow during Rucio meeting
- 16:40 → 16:55
  Transfers with tokens 15m
  
  Speaker: Francesco Giacomini (INFN CNAF)
  - FTS token improvements plans 20m
    
    Minutes
    
    Speaker: Mihai Patrascoiu (CERN)
    
    FTS wants to go with the token per (Storage, <src|dst>) approach, as opposed to a different token for each particular token.
    It is the responsibility of the user to provide the appropriate credentials, similarly to how they do right now via the proxy certificate delegation.
    FTS to introduce a delegation mechanism for tokens:
    - Tokens will be delegated according to a (CredID, Storage, <src|dst>) tuple
    - Clients will be able to delegate to "*" storage, a particular storage or (Storage, <src|dst>) pair
    - The delegation endpoint will be adapted to also list a user's delegated tokens
    CredID (credential ID) is a hash function of certain token fields. For the moment, that includes: "sub", "wlcg.groups" and "iss".
    Should "scopes" be part of the CredID?
    For convenience, FTS will provide transparent delegation via the command line tools. Example:
    $ fts-rest-transfer-submit --access-token <token_for_fts> --src-token <src_token> --dst-token <dst_token> -s https://fts3-pilot.cern.ch:8446/ <src> <dst>
    <token_for_fts> - created the CredID for the delegation
    <src_token> - token to delegate for source storage
    <dst_token> - token to delegate for destination storage
    Meeting Notes
    - Include "storage.*" scope in the CredID
    - When does the token delegation end? Has to be defined
    Dedicated meeting
    we have to think a bit about this proposal
    e.g. not clear when client (e.g. Rucio) needs to delegate fresh token
    some experiments don't want to allow scope.read:/ - unable to protect any data for some subgroup
    refresh tokens are not "cheap" on IAM side
    bootstrap problem
    Petr create doodle pool
    send email to the BDT mailing list
- 16:55 → 17:05
  
  Tape REST access 10m
  
  Speaker: Mihai PATRASCOIU (CERN)
- 17:05 → 17:15
  Packet marking 10m
  
  Minutes
  
  Speakers: Marian Babik (CERN), Shawn Mc Kee (University of Michigan (US))
  Draft plan for networking mini-challenges and network related activities for this year:
  https://docs.google.com/document/d/11AwUiyJit_241A4DfHbt-93Z-6BZ2CBwqMApoVXWpbk/edit?usp=sharing
  Packet Marking WG meeting took place 24th of January (https://indico.cern.ch/event/1244448/) - focus of the meeting was to discuss plans for this year
  Flowd version 1.0.0 was released (https://github.com/scitags/flowd); release notes are at https://github.com/scitags/flowd/releases/tag/v1.0.0
  Still working on packaging for CC7, EL8 an EL9 before asking selected sites to update
- 17:15 → 17:25
  
  WebDAV Error Message Improvement Project 10m
  
  Minutes
  
  Discuss with experts improvements in the error messages produced by failed transfers.
  
  Speaker: Stephan Lammel (Fermi National Accelerator Lab. (US))
  
  Petr would like to prioritize improvements described in DMC-1286 (due to higher number of these failures with recent problems on BNL LHCOPN link) and also better deal with transfers with substandard throughput that leads to the timeout DMC-1278.
- 17:25 → 17:30
  AOB 5m
  
  Minutes
  HTTP-TPC Update #4: Monitoring - transfer source and destination addresses
  today we agreed that proposal makes sense and Petr should create ticket for storage implementations
  this is not urgent, because it is "just monitorin" but it can make ops life easier / provide more details for precise transfer issue debugging
  our deadline for implementation is the end of 2023
  Standardize format of error messages
  form working group that comes with same error messages in all implementations for specific failure
  start with HTTP-TPC error messages
  we can collect information in the "Webdav Error Improvement" twiki pages
  Stephan create initial draft and send info in our BDT mailing list

WLCG DOMA BDT Meeting

HTTP-TPC Update #4: Monitoring - transfer source and destination addresses

Standardize format of error messages