09:02:37 From Ketevi Adikle Assamagan to Peter Jenni(direct message):
	Hi Peter. Oumar is not connected. In which case, I may ask you to say a few words on the Observers Committee.
09:04:23 From Peter Jenni to Ketevi Adikle Assamagan(direct message):
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	Hi Ketevi, Oumar made some slides. I hope he will connect! P.
09:08:55 From Peter Jenni to Ketevi Adikle Assamagan(direct message):
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	I just sent his slides, in case he did not yet…
09:13:04 From Ketevi Adikle Assamagan to Amal Kasry(direct message):
	Hi Amal. Do you have slides?
12:56:09 From sylvestergates to Everyone:
	Yes, we heard about the break and the time to resume
14:06:24 From Petra Rudolf to Ketevi Adikle Assamagan(direct message):
	Very hard to hear this speaker - kindly tell her to talk close to the microphone
14:07:41 From Petra Rudolf to Ketevi Adikle Assamagan(direct message):
	ok it is better now
15:03:03 From sylvestergates to Everyone:
	The point Ketevi is making is very, very important!
15:04:01 From sylvestergates to Everyone:
	With the rise of modern IT apps it is very, very easy to use these to find where content has simply been copied-&-pasted from els.
15:04:32 From sylvestergates to Everyone:
	From elsewhere
15:36:59 From Luca Serafini to Everyone:
	sorry for going off topic
15:37:35 From Paul Guèye (He/Him/His) to Everyone:
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	It is not. This is an important topic to address while we work on this document.
15:38:35 From Paul Guèye (He/Him/His) to Everyone:
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	One additional note: women come back more often than men …
15:42:59 From Luca Serafini to Everyone:
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	well, at least I’m happy that I raised an important subject, may be at the wrong time, but not irelevant
16:03:16 From Paul Guèye (He/Him/His) to Everyone:
	The talk is not in presentation  mode
16:33:38 From Young-Kee Kim to Everyone:
	What is the size of the accelerator community (e.g., # of accelerator people) in Africa?
16:36:06 From Paul Guèye (He/Him/His) to Everyone:
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	Not sure but it will be very informative. We can probably get this number during the discussion session. 
	
	Also: we may want to consider new technology such as C3 cavities as it will make the system even cheaper ad more compact.
16:37:49 From Young-Kee Kim to Everyone:
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	Thank you, Paul
16:52:37 From Luca Serafini to Everyone:
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	the size of the accelerator community in Africa devoted to scientific research is very limited, that is the reason why it needs to be developed so to reach Eu/US standard
16:54:57 From Luca Serafini to Everyone:
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	Compact cost-effective accelerator based infrastructures will help to fill the gap: not only compact light sources as mentioned by Sanae, but also laser plasma driven accelerators, next generation proton accelerators based on laser plasma or portable RFQ, all these are examples to be followed to develop small to mid-size research infrastructures in Africa for science and applications at the cutting-edge.
16:56:42 From Luca Serafini to Everyone:
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	C3, ERLs, laser plasma, all represent advanced accelerator technologies under development that offer the opportunity to do research with moderate investments, in the 10 paradigm (10 meters, 10 M$)
16:57:20 From Paul Guèye (He/Him/His) to Everyone:
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	Laser Wakefield may be a first phase since there are many laser systems in Africa. The issue will be to develop the infrastructure and proper training (the sis high filed science). But the expertise/foundation may already be there to leverage and these are cheaper systems in relative.
16:59:59 From Luca Serafini to Everyone:
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	several of these technologies can be cast in a single system: C3 RF cavities can drive the first part of a Linac based compact light source of hard X-rays up to 300 keV (like STAR), with a successive stage of laser-plasma boosting the beam energy up to 400-500 MeV so to reach the domain of nuclear photonics (gamma rays up to 4-5 MeV).
17:01:30 From Paul Guèye (He/Him/His) to Everyone:
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	Good point! I didn’t read the chapter on accelerators. These maybe some good feedback to the conveners
17:02:12 From Luca Serafini to Everyone:
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	yes!
17:06:38 From Young-Kee Kim to Everyone:
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	Thank you, Luca.
17:06:47 From Young-Kee Kim to Everyone:
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	Very helpful
17:10:15 From Luca Serafini to Everyone:
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	welcome, I hope this subject will come back in the following discussion
17:11:17 From Azwinndini Muronga to Everyone:
	Ketevi Jim is referring to NITheCS and you can refer Computing group to Francesco Petruccione the current director
17:13:06 From Ketevi Adikle Assamagan to Everyone:
	@Azwinndini Muronga : Francesco is a co-convener of the Computing Working Group but he has been too busy to contribute. If you are able to reach him, that would be appreciated. Thanks.
17:39:49 From Luca Serafini to Everyone:
	ok!
17:44:48 From Young-Kee Kim to Everyone:
	EDIT - Excellence in Detector Instrumentation and Technology (2-week hands-on instrumentation school for students)
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	Thanks. I got the reference. It was just done at Fermilab …
17:47:26 From Young-Kee Kim to Everyone:
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	Yes. Other host institutions include CERN, TRIUMF, BNL.
18:01:05 From Luca Serafini to Everyone:
	we do not hear in ZOom
18:04:57 From Young-Kee Kim to Everyone:
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	I wonder if we could encourage an institution in African to host EDIT in the future. This experience could help to figure out how to establish the Center (your WG’s priority).
18:06:16 From Paul Guèye (He/Him/His) to Everyone:
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	I was planning to talk to Steve (USPAS) and the EDIT folks next week. We can start engaging. I don’t see why we could not.
18:12:17 From Paul Guèye (He/Him/His) to Everyone:
	@Azwinndini Muronga training in instrumentation is required for any short term or long term experimental project, be it small or large. If any project is put forward but there are no experts, it will be hard to argue the case. We can only use existing systems and planned ones to make the case, regardless if the wish list is not accomplished at the end. The expertise will exist and new ideas could emerge with fast turn around. This is also one aspect that comes out of Ulrich’s comment earlier.
18:13:08 From Azwinndini Muronga to Everyone:
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	 100%
18:18:47 From Azwinndini Muronga to Everyone:
	So we also need technical skills to maintain the research infrastructure
18:18:57 From Luca Serafini to Everyone:
	yes!
18:22:05 From Mirjana Povic to Everyone:
	all are important: technical skills, sufficient human resources - qualified ones, funding, lack of components on local markets is a huge problem and long-waiting times to be purchased, with often hard administrative processes - in particular since most of the countries need foreign currency, and they lack it, etc...
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	Agreed!!
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	I forgot to mention the Cornell c-beta (e.g., permanent) magnets which are very cheap too. Should go in the accelerator physics chapter
18:27:00 From Luca Serafini to Everyone:
	yes!
18:27:23 From Luca Serafini to Everyone:
	I apologise but I have to disconnect - I’ll see you tomorrow morning
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	… and/or instrumentation chapter (that is a good skill). Some could even be used for demos/small projects for pre-colleges
18:33:42 From Azwinndini Muronga to Everyone:
	Instrumentation Chapter might be able to cover a wide scope
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	Yes. We had some issues gathering the information at the beginning but it looks like we are getting some meat to work with now as well as some momentum.