KI milliarder 6th December 2024 

Agenda: https://indico.cern.ch/event/1484673/ 

Introduction/general (Eirik) 

  • Conclude that we delay the deadline for sending to partners/institutes/CERN until THURSDAY NOON. 

  • Executive summary 

  • Table of deliverables for each work package 

  • Resources for/from institutions 

  • Should we add to the table of people how much each person needs to be “bought” 

  • Yes, need to add two new columns: NFR contribution and in-kind contribution [ADDED by Eirik] 

  • Are: before putting in a full budget need to see how many people are envisioned   

  • Summing up the numbers of FTEs from each work package so far comes to too much, need to be reduced/normalised and clarified how much each person will be in-kind &c 

  • Anna: numbers by Monday evening? 

  • Matthias: how does it work with own contribution? Profs will devote some work time (e.g. 20%) to the centre? 

  • Anna: need to argue with the institute, once the project has been approved. If people who are paid from NorCC are moved to this project the project has to pay - NorCC can’t pay. Institute can only pay for time of professors 

  • Are: good understanding of the own-contributions from the different institutions.  

  • Updated excellence not yet in place [NOW IN PLACE] 

  • As much as possible should be done by Thursday for sending to HVL, final draft unlikely by Thursday 

  • Risks should be listed in general and for specific work packages, but then be collected together in a table/general subsection 

  • Svein: looking at this from the outside, hard to understand the vision 

  • Based on the old Excellence part, new version to be added after this meeting 

  • Need to add a “teasers” early on. Should also be (partly) addressed by the new version. 

  • Ali: Need to have deliverables in a table 

  • Farid: Need to have milestones 

  • Will come in a Gantt chart, Nadia working on it [PLEASE SEE HER EMAIL] 

  • Each work package should put in start/end dates 

  • Need an executive summary / project summary 

  • Global editing (style, structure) can wait until the end 

  • Document is too long so we will need some strategy to condense it. Please edit with a view to shrinking it… 

  • Section on data and computing power needs to be addressed: James will look at it 

Work package 0 

  • Added text to the overleaf. Anna added comments in red  

  • Should be in reasonable shape by Thursday 

 

Work package 1 

  • Getting closer to a draft, need to add references &c 

  • Deliverables and risks aren’t done yet 

  • Will add existing text by Thursday 

 

Work package 2 

  • James/Eirik working on it over the past days, getting into a decent shape 

  • Still some things missing but should be there by Thursday 

  • Risks/deliverables 

 

Work package 3 

  • Defined three tasks, need to add references, deliverables &c 

  • Should be possible for a reasonable version by Thursday 

  • Estimate of PhDs/PDs? 

  • For task 1,2: 1-2 PhD  

  • Task 3: 1-2 PhDs 

  • Maximum 3 PhDs 

 

Work package 4 

  • Added a new task (Equinor), added a task 

  • Need to add references &c 

  • Need to do some synchronisation between 2 and 4 

  • Quite a lot of risks… maybe best to comment them out for the HVL draft 

 

Work package 5 

  • Working on integrating the parts together 

  • Will add deliverables and risks 

  • Task 5c: should do some merging with work package 2 

 

Work package 6 

  • No-one present 

  • They are working on the text, will discuss at HVL 

 

Implementation chapter (Therese) 

  • Please read, will need some adjustments following the excellence part 

  • Table with postdocs &c needs to be in this part, not in task 0. Anna will move it. 

  • Didn’t yet write measures for exploitation and communication. Think of something to fill in there 

 

Organisation 

  • Collaboration with other work packages 

  • UiB initiative 

  • Others?  

  • How to collaborate with other centres should be generic, not specific, because we don’t know which centres will be funded 

  • Can reference WP0 in this part 

  • Work package distribution as shown in the slides 

  • Need to fit Dieter and ALICE in…? Tracking? 

  • Need to be careful about putting things in that are just for CERN 

  • Needs to be discussed URGENTLY 

  • Are: wise to have two work package conveners, distributed across institutes 

  • Are: Heidi suggested that administrative coordinator should be at NTNU and the educational should be at UiO to work with Eli in NorCC. 

  • Farid: should be demonstrated that it is the best place where each person should be, not where existing centres are 

  • Are: HVL should have the deputy leader 

  • Are: total number of project leaders will be greater than 15 so some CVs will not be submitted; need to be strategic about which CVs are sent in. Should include some professors from NTNU 

  • Anna: If you send a CV then you need to say what the person will do… Need a role for each CV 

  • Therese: named person from each task as well as work package leaders 

  • Farid: need to take account of conflict of interest. WP leader can also lead a task, but avoid (e.g.) having people in the board who execute the work 

 

Summary 

  • Numbers of people (NFR/own) from each institution by Monday evening 

  • Each participating institute needs to write a letter of intent, as does CERN. Also NextGen project. WLCG? IT@CERN?  

  • Eirik and Are will look over the document on Tuesday