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WH11NE- Sunrise: Please ticket.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: or can between zoom hear me? Okay, perfect.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So let me just get started. So Hi, everyone my name is Akash. I'm currently a postdoc at the Accelerator Division. I finished my Phd. About 2 years ago on, in fact, this exact same topic, which was to be very new to me, and I was offered a postdoc here, which I was glad to accept, because now I get to

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WH11NE- Sunrise: see it through, because we have some exciting time ahead. And yeah, thanks for this opportunity to, you know. Invite me to this Forum. Talk to you all.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So there was. There are 2 ways that I could have structured this talk. One would be to just directly jump into the intricacies of the beam physics, the nonlinearity of it, and the finer details of what we call as a restaurant extraction, and then and then, just, you know, speed on with it. But I understand that not everyone in the audience could be our experts in accelerator physics. So I thought

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WH11NE- Sunrise: this could be a good opportunity for me to talk about accelerator physics and a little about fermilab accelerator complex, and then slowly build to the nonlinear beam physics process that goes into beam delivery from U to B. There are 2 disclaimers that I would like to say. One is that

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WH11NE- Sunrise: since this is going to be a whirlwind introduction to accelerator physics, there's going to be a lot of hand waving. But what I would like to get from it is just the essence of the beam physics concepts that we want to talk about. And I'm not going to talk about all the systems

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WH11NE- Sunrise: that go into beam delivery, only the ones that are pertinent to this and that, too, not in that great of a detail, but it would hopefully. It stands as a good introduction. In case you want to learn something later, you can always do that?

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So so yeah, let's start the further ado to set up the stage.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: so mu 2 e this, as if you may know, is an upcoming experimented formula that intends to look for a charged electron flavor violation. And the way mu 2 E intends to do that is, to take a muon, and then shoot the muon inside an aluminum atom, and then store the aluminum atom in the sorry store, the muons in the aluminum atoms, Coulomb field nucleus coulomb field and then wait for the mu to decay.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: If we have a direct conversion of Muon to electron without any neutrinos, then we expect the energy of the decayed, the electron product from the decayed muon to have almost the rest mass of the muon. There is some energy that goes into the nuclear binding energy and the nuclear recoil energy. But more or less, we know what energy of electron that we have to look for. And the way

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WH11NE- Sunrise: we create the these Muons is by bombarding proton pulses on to a muon production target. And then you take the backscattered muon. You transport it, and then you hit this muon into aluminium stopping target. And then you have the experiment.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: Now there are some significant background processes for this experiment that hinders our measurement.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So this direct conversion is not strictly prohibited by standard model, but it's extremely suppressed to the order of 10 power, minus 50 or something like that.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: The previous experiment called syndrome, 2. Then at Tsi it used almost the same technique, but it used gold atoms, and the bound they set were about 10 bar, minus 13. But Mu. 2 intends to reach a sensitivity of a better of about 4 orders of magnitude to about 10 bar minus 19, and one of the significant background processes is what is called a radiative ion capture.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So as these, the protons hit the Muons gets produced, and along with the Muons some pions also come for the right. And there is a process that would happen in which the pion can interact with the nucleus, and it can produce a gamma, the photon. And this gamma and another gamma could interact and produce electron positron. And this electron produced from this interaction could mimic the Mu 2 E electron which we do not want.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So in order to circumvent that what mu 2 we cleverly does is you shoot the muon inside the aluminum atom, and whatever secondary, the secondaries that come with it. But you don't start the live window of data recording. So you wait until all these background electrons fly away.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and after that you have the live window where you look for mu to v electrons, and then the next set of muons come. So what this right away tells you is, you do not want a continuous stream of Muons to come, but you want pulses of Muons to come.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: If you want pulses of nuance. What that. What that means is you need to create pulses of protons.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: And how do we get those pulses of protons? So that's going to be the main story behind. At least this talk, which makes the beam to be possible. So just a quick number. So this waiting window is almost 700 nanoseconds, which means it would be ideal to have a pulse to pulse duration of about 1.6 microseconds in order for the experiment to work efficiently.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: Okay, this is the setup.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: And now the question is, how do we get these proton pulses to go? Yes, you said, I mean, okay, it's a 700 nanosecond window. Is that determined by the physics? And then you match the beam to the physics, or is it that's determined by the beam dynamics of you can get this. I mean time it into this. It's an excellent question. It's a happy coincidence of both. Yes, so, in fact, when the beam delivery schemes were being investigated for this.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: Also, we're considering other machines to deliver the beam from. But as I'm going to show the the delivery ring happens to be a really good candidate for that. And it's exactly because of this temporal structure that it could give. So yeah, good question.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: Okay, so now let's have a quick, you know, run through of the Fermi accelerator complex. One thing I would like to say is a lot of the stuff that we're going to see now, halfway through the talk and also the accelerator physics concepts.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: They are not centered just to formula, but it can be. The concepts are applicable even to other machines, especially to Lhc. That's very close and dear to your heart. So, but there could be some technical caveats here and there, but regardless it could be a good introduction to have

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WH11NE- Sunrise: so this is the overall fermi accelerator, fermilab accelerator complex.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So let's quickly go through each of these. Now, I'm not talking about many of the accelerators here.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: because they have not written into Mu 2 V. But these are the accelerators that we do need to provide beam to mu 2. V. So let's just go to the very 1st step, which is the ion source, and it good. You can see the cursor. So it all starts over here.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So what the ion source does is so we have about 2 bottles of hydrogen, essentially is where the story starts, and the hydrogen is then provided with an arc, and a plasma is formed.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and then this plasma has h plus ions, and then we have a cathode, a molybdenum cathode coated with some cesium because the cesium decreases the work function of the molybdenum. And this shoots out electron and the electron that shoots out sticks to these h plus ion. What we want is

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WH11NE- Sunrise: h minus ions, and once enough time is given for this h minus ions to be created. We then pulse these anode in such a way that we give about a voltage offset of 35 kilovolts, such as the h minus ions, shoot out

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WH11NE- Sunrise: at 35 kb, so you may ask, why catch minus ions? Why not directly start with protons? We'll see why it's actually a clever reason. So once the

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WH11NE- Sunrise: once it comes out, then we pass it through some solenoids to to give it some focus, and it passes through this anzel lens. So what this lens does is, it acts as a beam chopper, so it gives

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WH11NE- Sunrise: almost a 35 kilovolt of potential opposite to it. So as the pulse comes in, it accumulates, and then it's let go, and then you have a train of these hedge minus ions let through. So it it kind of acts as a beam chopper.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: And then this 35 Kv beam H minus ions. Enter this thing called radio frequency quadrupole. So what this Rf, Q does is

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WH11NE- Sunrise: it provides transverse focusing. We're going to see more about what that means shortly, and it also gives some longitudinal focusing as the pulse comes through, it gives some longitudinal time structure to it, and then it accelerates it to about 750 kev.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and then the H. Minus ions are passed through these quads, and also further punching, and we have 750 Kv. H. Minus ions, coming out of this ion source in the earlier days prior to 2,012. Instead of this Rfq.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: We had this Cockcroft and water generator. In fact, this was constructed when Fermilab was constructed. In fact, it was bought from a 3rd party vendor in the 19 seventies. In fact, the 1st director founding Director Wilson. He was so fond of this Cockroft water generator that so, in fact, if you see, there is a man standing there just to give you a sense of scale. He wanted to keep this

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WH11NE- Sunrise: generator right in the middle of Wilson hall. Just so people can see, and people can be inspired aesthetically. The the physicist who was working with the group called Donald Young. Some of the old timers here may perhaps remember so he

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WH11NE- Sunrise: permanently opposed to it, and Wilson again, being a very strong character, he was like, no, no, we should do this, and Donald had threatened to resign, because if you have this right in the center of Wilson Hall, then there has to be a 90 degree bend in the Limac, and that's such a risky thing to have as a starting point for your whole lab

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WH11NE- Sunrise: that Donald Yang told. Hey, this is the case. Then I'm out. And then, Wilson conceded, and we did sadly. We do not have this at the center of Wilson Hall, but if you, in fact, walk out the Wilson Hall, and if you go to the Linac starting point, I don't know if your Id card hopefully it does. You can actually see this Cockroft Water generator. You don't know which party can access and which party you can't. So you can. You can

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WH11NE- Sunrise: take some shifts, and so you can just go across with with, you can go across and you can walk through

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WH11NE- Sunrise: perfect. That's nice. Maybe we'll do a tour with you, maybe. Yeah, sure. Absolutely.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So yeah, there is that story. It's decommissioned now. Right? Yes, it is decommissioned. So we can move it. There are there 2 of them actually also, Ethan. To my knowledge there is one I don't know if there is a spare stored somewhere. But

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WH11NE- Sunrise: but yeah, I I know that when they were building the lab, a lot of attention went into the main ring focus. So in fact, Wilson was okay to just buy this

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WH11NE- Sunrise: from a 3rd party vendor. And it's some. I think this was brought in from Sweden or something, and, in fact, another factor is the Ion source, and the Van de Graaff and the Linac is an exact copy of Brookhaven National Lab. In fact, Brookhaven National Lab Commission, and then, 12 days later, Fermilabs Linac Commission. So it was almost a twin of both.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: Okay, 15 min already. Okay, I'm gonna go into some digressions. But they are interesting.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: Okay, now, okay, just continue the story. So we have 750 Kv hitch minus ions coming out, and now they are fed into Linux. Linux, as you may know, is a linear accelerator. So this was again built as a part of the initial construction at formula, and our Linux has about 2 sections to it. The 1st section is called a drift tube, Linux. We have 5 drift tubes.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and the second is called an side coupling accelerator. I don't expect to know what that is, but but one- one cool thing to know about the rift tube Linux. So these

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WH11NE- Sunrise: the drift tubes. So this whole thing that you see there's an accelerator cavity and these drift tubes, in fact, are covered in alternative voltages. So what happens is

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WH11NE- Sunrise: as the particle enters into this drift tube

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WH11NE- Sunrise: the electric field. So what we want is the particle to experience a longitudinal electric field for it to accelerate. So the particle accelerate. But of course, at some point the electric field flips

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WH11NE- Sunrise: when the electric field flips, because it's oscillatory, you don't want the particle to experience, and the electric field is negative, as it will start to decelerate. So what happens here is as the particle enters into the drift tube, it acts as a Faraday cage.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and the particle does not feel the opposite electric field anymore, and by the time the particle comes out it gets attracted towards the next drift tube. But now the acceleration is the right direction. So this is choreographed in a way that the particle accelerates every time when it's in between 2 drift tubes. So we have about 5 drift tube tanks, and it is accelerated to from 750 kev to about 1 16 Mev. So here this cartoon is a little

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WH11NE- Sunrise: too hand wavy, like everyone, so I'm not going to go into the details of where, exactly in this peak you want the particles to reside. Is it left or right? It's an interesting question, but we won't have time to cover that. But if you want, you can look up later.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: And then, okay, so it comes out and it the. It's then accelerated to about 400 Mav. At the end of the Lenac, and we have 400 Mev. H. Minus ions coming out of the Linac.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and then it's fed into this circular thing called the booster.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So this booster is what we call a synchron machine. I'll explain what it is. So when one question you may have is, well, it's h minus that's entering. When does it get converted to protons?

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WH11NE- Sunrise: And it happens just before the particles enter into this booster. So this line in the top that you see are circulating h plus ions, which is a nickname for protons, the one that you see from the bottom. Here is the 400 Mev. H. Minus ions that come from the Lenac.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and this is one of the main reasons why we use H minus ions instead of protons, and this because, as the H. Minus ions enter.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: gets bent by the same magnetic field, but they get bent in the opposite direction.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and now they are merged and they pass through this vertical strip. It's a carbon strip, and this carbon strips off the 2 electrons from the H minus ion, and once it comes out, it you have protons.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and and the electrons, you know, get lost in the scattering.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: you have h minus ions that were not stripped, you have again a magnetic field in this region. Now they kick the h minus ions and h plus ions in different directions. And now the H minus ions are dumped into this dump here, and the h plus continues to circulate in the booster. So we have this

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WH11NE- Sunrise: clever technique of splitting. And then the whatever protons that continue to circulate in the booster continues to do so, and the incoming h minus ions get stripped into protons, and they just to join the booster

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and then what you do is now you have protons in the booster. Now these are 400 mev protons, and you accelerate those 400 mev in a synchronous fashion to 8 Gb.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: And then, as you do that, in fact. So there are Rf. Cavities within this booster, and these Rf. Cavities provide some longitudinal structure to the beam. So once the proton enters. So the protons kind of fill up the whole booster. Once you switch on the Rf cavity because of the frequencies that are chosen between the revolution frequency and the Rf. Frequency. These protons in the booster get

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WH11NE- Sunrise: seg, get segmented into about 80 or so different pulses.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and then, once you have, that you then accelerate these 80 pulses to 8 gev. And then you eject, and then you inject into this thing called the recycler. So the recycler, then, is the second largest accelerator

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WH11NE- Sunrise: physically at formula. Right now it's the largest operating accelerator in the lab, so the recycling ring is made of permanent magnets which can support 8 Gb. Protons. This was constructed earlier during the teletron days to help with the production of the antiprotons, but now it was reconfigured to store. I mean it is configured to store protons to deliver beam to the Muon campus.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So the 8 Gb. So remember that from when- when the when the beam exits the booster, it segments it's segmented into 80 plus or so pulses.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: Once it's injected into the recycler, there is the Rf system inside the recycler that regroups these 80 trains of pulses into 4 big pulses, and the intensity of this is about 4 times 10 power 12 protons that's circulating with one time 10 power, 12 proton in each of those pulses.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and this proton. These proton pulses are then sent to the delivery ring. The muon delivery ring right now. This, of course, was used to aid 2 experiments, the G minus 2 and the mu 2 v. Right now G minus 2 is done during the G minus 2 days this

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WH11NE- Sunrise: delivery ring, which is a triangular ring, it's about 500 meters in circumference. It was used to store the Muons, and then those Muons were sent to the G minus 2 storage ring. But now we have repurposed this delivery ring to store protons.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and this delivery ring is where the action is going to happen for mu, 2 be so. The goal for the mu 2 E beam delivery is to inject about one E. 12 protons into this delivery ring, and over the course of the next. You know some finite number of turns to extract a uniform slice of these protons, and then send to this green line, which is called the M. 4 beam line and send to the Mu 2 E

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WH11NE- Sunrise: building the motivate target hub. So the target lies at the end of this opposite 14 line.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: split? How do we extract a uniform slice of the circulating beam. That's a tricky question. And again, there is a clever way of how we intend to do it. And this is where nonlinear beam physics comes into play. So before we go into that, let's have

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WH11NE- Sunrise: what is accelerators? Well, you move particles from A to B typically charged particles. Not just that. Of course, you move particles from A to B with a specific energy in mind

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and not just with a specific energy. But you also want a specific energy and specific intensity.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and not just that, because you also want a longitudinal time structure that you want with the beam

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and as you can guess, that's not enough, you need also something called a face space control and this directly relates with minimizing the beam losses. Now, I don't expect you to know what face spaces, but we'll we'll get to that shortly. This face space control and the minimum beam loss is going to be one of the most crucial things that's needed for the new beam delivery.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: There is another aspect, which is, you move particles from A to B with an existential angst. For when B is so far away, but sometimes you, it actually comes to your aid, because you have enough distance to manipulate the beam the way you want it to. But usually I would rather have it shorter.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: so this is kind of the overall goal, for you know, accelerator physics to to help achieve.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: And now we care about what degrees of freedom do we have when we look at a particle. So here the circle that you see here

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WH11NE- Sunrise: The X axis is the horizontal position of the particle, and the Y axis is the vertical position of the particle and the X cross y. The longitudinal direction is the cross product of these 2 coordinates. So this coordinate system is called frennet, 7 coordinate system. So this is a local coordinate system that travels along with the particle this way. It's useful to

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WH11NE- Sunrise: to look at how these quantities evolve. See if you have a stable beam or not.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So what are the degrees of freedom? Well, it's the horizontal position of the particle. Now, as you see, we don't have just all the particles sitting exactly at the center of the beam. There's bound to be some distribution, but there is also a distribution in the angle of the particles, so each particle will have some random angle that it's pointed to, and both these are independent. Any particle can have any position in any angle, and same goes for the vertical as well.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: and the last 2 degrees of freedom are the momenta, or the energy of the particle, and also the arrival time of the particle. In other words, if you look the beam from the sideward as it's going, what does its temporal or longitudinal structure look like, and how is the energy distribution to the given particle? So these are the 6 main variables that we care about in accelerator physics.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So for the purposes of this talk, we are mainly interested in transverse degrees of freedom, and all that means is just the plot that you see here and the angles of each particle. So you care about the horizontal plane and the vertical plane. In fact, in our case, for the resonant extraction. We care much more about the horizontal plane, because that's where particles get killed or extracted, or a lot of these things. Dynamics happen in the horizontal plane

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WH11NE- Sunrise: the angle here. Can you tell me exactly what angle from? Yeah. Good question. So you can see the angle here. Imagine the circle as a beam pipe that's coming right? Yeah. So each particle is not going to go obediently straight. Sure, it's going to go this way, this way, that way in the horizontal plane, and similarly, the vertical plane. It would have any random angle. So the angle that is coming from in the yes, exactly. You were just talking about the coordinates traveling with the with the V

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So with respect to the the central. Okay, yeah. In fact, there's a plot that I would show, but not here. But

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WH11NE- Sunrise: this angle is, with respect to the ideal design trajectory of the part. So, accelerator, let's say it's a perfect circular accelerator. So you have a predefined ideal circular trajectory, but each particle locally within the circumference is not going to have the exact circle. It's going to locally have some angles. And if you don't do anything, it's just going to get lost, actually. So that's why there are other interesting things that ways in which you can contain the beam. But yeah, good question.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So, yeah, these are the 4 main transfers, degrees of freedom that we care about.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: And these are the main players

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WH11NE- Sunrise: that we use to manipulate the beam in the transverse direction in the longitudinal direction. There are a lot of cavities that you use. But for this talk we are not going to touch about that. And all fields that I talk about are going to be magnetic under the wave stated, because, like, you know, for high energy particles.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: The magnetic force thankfully, is proportionate to its velocity. So we make use of that. I mean, for example, in the delivery ring. This

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WH11NE- Sunrise: the Strangler ring that I sort of talked about where the action happens. These bending fields that you see for 8 Gv. Proton. The magnetic field that you require is, I think, something like a calculus per point 3 dust or something. But if you replace that with electric field, it's about a hundred 1 million volts per meter

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WH11NE- Sunrise: And I know the magnets in between. Then I can actually mathematically calculate what the angles should be because I know the mattresses right, and if I do that, what do we see? So remember earlier. So if you have a sextapole and the closest goes close to 30 digit. You should see triangles, and I wanted to see if we do see triangles

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So this is an actual data taken from the Bbm. It is so exciting for me to see this triangle because I did my Phd. For failures and simulations and everything, and I know the math. But you know, it's a totally different feeling when you actually see the beam. And yeah, it's something very gratifying.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: You can do a Fourier transform on this full waveform. So you can actually see that there are some spikes. You know that these vertical lines that you see are artifact of amplifiers. You can ignore that. But you see the waveform itself kind of oscillates, and you see the baseline also kind of oscillates. And so I was curious as to what are the frequencies that contribute to this. So I just overnight ran in this powerful into Mac Fourier transform of these 15 million data points.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: so you could do half integer extraction. So, in fact, from the main injector to the switchyard. They do this thing called half integer extraction, whereby, over the course of 4 seconds, these 1 point integer protons are extracted and sent to the screen. But for us, when we did the analysis, it looked like 3rd integer was

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WH11NE- Sunrise: It has to do with the lattice of the machine. What magnets there are already in the machine. So, in fact, there was also an investigation done to do 3rd integer extraction in the main injector. But I believe the magnets and the phase advance of the particles are not optimal enough that you could do that there. So a large factor also comes with what you already have and what you can do with a given machine.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: My question is maybe a variation on that, which is what is, why do this, which seems a bit more delicate compared to using a kicker magnet, a kicker magnet. Yeah, yes. So with a kicker magnet.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: if you just want part of the beam. Yes, just drawing a whole bits of it of it at a time. The whole thing exactly. Did you say you do use a kicker also? So you you induce this instability, and then you still use a kicker to abstract? Exactly so. In fact, if you if you if you see here

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WH11NE- Sunrise: So the beam is coming in in this direction. So there is a cathode that's there behind these foils, and there is a strong electric field that it gives. So whatever particle is on the other side gets the kick, and it gets, and it gets like extracted on the other side. So this is, this is electrostatic kicker.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: one more silly, maybe stupid part. So in the face space, I don't have a good intuition for this, I mean, are you?

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WH11NE- Sunrise: 15 seconds or something like that. But here we have a spill time of about 43 ms, which is ridiculously fast. So all the hardware and everything has to be on point. And it's challenging. And that's also why it's it's exciting. So so yeah, spill time is extremely strong.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: there are other effects caused by beam pipe, such as space charge effects and which I'm not talking about. But in these diagnostics, typically you try to keep it as possible. Yeah, to the extent that, in fact, it's okay. And then I mean, so that was in the longitudinal for the transverse. Do you have anything right now to? Yeah. So in fact, the beam position monitor that I talked about was, in fact, a transverse measurement where it measures the transverse position of the beams. Centroid.

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WH11NE- Sunrise: this is for transfers. This is transfers. Yes, so in fact, you would have. You could have in the horizontal direction. But you could also have plates in the, in the vertical direction you can figure out whether beam is in X or y. Is this what you use to actually measure the the yes, exactly. So. This beautiful triangle that I got was measured during Ppms in 2 locations.

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