Subject:
Fwd: Meeting 31st October 2011: minutes
Notes:
 Oliver Gutsche <oliver.gutsche@cern.ch>
> Date: October 31, 2011 15:03:23 GMT+01:00
> To: <wlcg-teg-operations@cern.ch>
> Subject: Meeting 31st October 2011: minutes
>
> WLCG Operations and Support Tools TEG - 31/10/2011
>
> Participants:
>
> at CERN: Alex, Maarteen, Laurence, AndreaS, Joel, Simone, Pepe, Stephane, Ueda, Alessandro, MariaD, Stefan, Oliver, Marian
> remote: OliverG, PeterS, other phone numbers
>
> Minutes from last meeting
> --------------------------
>
> - attached to the agenda of last and this meeting
> - please state your name before you speak in the meeting
>
> Presentation: Subgroups and Editors
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>
> - slide 3: 5 working groups
> - need additional contributors to most of the groups
> - general: participation from site people to TEG working groups
> * Jeff: there are several people who would like to start contributing but they cannot right now
> ** IanC could start earliest Nov. 21st
> ** KIT voiced interest, not present at the meeting
> ** 2 people from CNAF voiced interest, not present at the meeting
> ** PIC send comments already and is interested to participate, not present at the meeting
> => Jeff will send list of names to Maria
> => then Maria and Jeff will update slide 3
> - add to WG 3 contributors: Alex, Maria, Jeff
>
> - slide 4: timeline
> - tentative: F2F Nov 28th in Amsterdam, Jeff will check for room availability
>
> - slide 5: Assessment of the current situation
> * template available on TWiki: https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/LCG/WLCGTEGOperations (click on guidelines)
> * Jeff: attached short overview of feedback received so far, will be a lot of work to transform feedback into table
> * Jeff: question if feedback is shared between different WGs or if there needs to be a clear assignment to a single WG
> * Maria: Should we give the TWiki already to the WG editors so that they can get
> - Unknown: Monitoring has 4 sub bullets, suggestion is to be organized into one table with 4 rows, but can be adapted later.
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> - Action: Maria will update the slides and re-upload, changes are asked to be modified in the slides and re-uploaded
> - Subeditor
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> Presentation: Status of Input Collection
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>
> - summary of who provided input and what is being put into the document
> - first thing to be put into the document: UK T2
> - waiting for input from CERN, KIT, CNAF
> - proposal: when UK T2 is included, publish the document so that sub groups can start working on their WG contributions
> - general format: TWiki
> * sub editors create their own subsection on the TWiki and maintain it
> * possibility to use different format within the subsections, but format needs to be exportable into common format like pdf
>
> Report from sub groups
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> WG1: Monitoring & metrics:
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> - already received from Atlas and CMS
> - nothing from the sites yet, need a few sites (single VO, multi VO) to comment
> - NDGF will contribute
> - important: need all contributions attached somewhere (TWiki), then subeditors will collect and combine
> => Jeff: already put all contributions in the respective subsections in the document, Jeff will mail the document and the UK contribution to the list and the subeditors can extract the information
>
> WG3: Status of Input Collection
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> - Maarten: when asking site admins directly to comment on topics of a WG, the replies will possibly span multiple WGs, concern that other WGs have already contacted the site people and asked for input which would create confusion on the site side ("but I already have given input for ...") => should we have a general call for input?
> - Suggestion: WG3 and WG5 will combine their requests for input from sites, add pointer to TWiki to enable comments on topics from other WGs
>
> General for all communication incl. discussions:
> - we should use the mailing list putting WG keyword in subject
>
> Next meeting in 2 weeks
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>
> - 2 PM CERN time
> - status update in presentation from from all WGs
> * checkpoint to prepare for the presentation during F2F meeting Nov. 28th
> * information collection should be inclusive for the first round
> * then has to be condensed into 5 pages
> - next week, short status via email
>