Notes of the CCRC'08 planning conference call of 22.10.07 Present: WLCG Service Coordination: H.Renshall (chair HR) GSSD: F.Donno (FD) Tier0: M.Coelho (Notes MC) WLCG/LHC-Ops link: absent MB: A.Aimar (AA) ATLAS: absent CMS: M.Kasemann (MK) ALICE: L.Betev (LB) LHCb: N.Brook (NB) ASGC: absent BNL: absent CNAF: L.dell'Agnello (LA) FNAL: absent FZK: A.Heiss (AH) IN2P3: F.Hernandez (FH) NDGF: absent NL-T1: M.vd.Sanden (MS) PIC: G.Merino (GM) RAL: A.Sansum (AS) TRIUMF: Absent - LHCB (N.Brook): Presented their CCRC'08 targets table. The Feb. to May data volume difference is because the May run has two extra weeks. Same rates but since it runs twice as long there is twice the data. The CCRC LHCb data can be scratched. - Atlas and Alice have yet to submit their targets but Alice (L.Betev) will do so by the end of this week. Alice emphasised they will be using their normal production resources as required for p-p running. - Atlas representative did not attend the meeting as he was involved in FDR planning during the current Atlas week so we expect input soon. - CMS (M.Kasemann) will use mixed mock and cosmics data. CMS knows how to separate these data at the SE level so that mock data can be dropped. - F.Donno will present next week the storage resource requirements being gathered from the experiments. - H.Renshall pointed out a clarification email from Alice that Alice does not require SLC4 WMS and can run with SLC3. - PIC questioned LFC deployment for LHCB. Although 3D streams are being replicated to PIC there is no LFC front-end deployed. They asked if they should deploy the current version or the next version where UID/GID is also replicated from CERN ? N.Brook will check but first answer is that PIC should wait. - H.Renshall reviewed the delivery schedule of the explict software requirements. An unknown is that for the fully functional glexec but no experiments are requiring this. R.Trompert pointed out that NL-T1 has now announced Nov 19 as the date for it's dcache 1.8 migration. - A.Aimar presented his first draft of the ccrc'08 milestones and is now awaiting reactions from sites and experiments. - Next week ATLAS and CMS will be visiting ASGC.