HL-LHC TOOC Group - Meeting 1, 13 June 2014 =========================================== Attending: Wesley Smith, Graeme Stewart, Latchezar Betev, Imma Riu, Maria Girone, David Lange, Frans Meijers, Vava Gligorov, Benedetto Gorini, Nikos Konstantinidis, Imma Riu, Stefano Veneziano, Mikolaj Krzewicki Apologies: Pete Clarke, Niko Neufeld, Pierre Vande Vyvre It was emphasised that the concerns of all member of the group should be aired and used to guide the group's activities. Agreed that the group's activity is open - any interested parties can sign up and attend our meetings. There is a mailing list we can re-use for this group. ACTION Graeme and Wesley to try to re-enable this. Should have systems designed to cope with pile up up to 200. Noted that ATLAS and CMS cannot be triggerless (too high a material cost). Still hard to see how we bring our software into shape for really exploiting parallelism. 25% Moore's Law increases probably not enough. For contacting groups outside the experiments we can use the Concurrency Forum and HEP S/W. Talks this year can report on progress that the experiments have made - thus expect more concrete results. Focus is on runs 3 and 4, however relevant information from run 2 upgrades can be illustrative. We need to make sure that we have sufficient resources for the TDAQ and computing upgrades - don't underestimate the costs and diffculties. Workshop last year was very useful. General consensus that first week of September would be a good time for mini-workshops (too many constraints in subsequent weeks). These should be topical and can cover each area of interest independently (although trigger and offline S&C issues are quite close; noted that generally online resources are now used more flexibly). Speakers for the meeting should help guide inputs. Discussions within communities should be prompted by PG members. Speaker selection: Last year, generally, people did not volunteer - so David and Wesley both spoke. There is room for up to 4 talks and we can pick advocates to really push on key points. PG Chairs can speak for the group, but this is not necessary. We should decide on speakers and topics early to help with mini-workshop preparations. ACTION for ALL - Suggestions and nominations here are already very welcome! Useful reference materials should be added. ACTION on ALL - please send relevant links to Graeme and Wesley. (In particular LHCb TDRs are available.) For 'white papers' the twiki should suffice for people to submit ideas. Next meeting will be in ~2 weeks to discuss progress and continue preparations.