Discussion on the HLT issues: Federico: first question - what can go to the data challenges, second question - how do we coordinate the future work. The next ADC is in October, so we haven't much time to work on. The DAQ people need the raw data (pure binary files), and then they can use them correctly. One doesn't need all the detectors in, for example ITS and TPC would be enough. This afternoon a small work-group can decide how to formate the raw data and provide it to the DAQ. - raw data arrangement for the data challenge 4 (Roberto, Ajit, Dario, Marian, Sandro, Bjorn, Mariana, Karel, Andres, Marek) A HLT day should be planned for each Alice off-line day. Each detector should revise the status of the HLT code. ITS and TPC have prepared already something, TRD is also following the question. There is some code from MUON detector.