Computing and physics data challenges are distinguished only in Alice. DC 10/2003 - 09/2004 Classic one: simulation, reconstruction DC 10/2004 - 09/2006 Initially we supposed 10% reconstructed data Tier0 data ----> Tier1's It has disadvantage that supposes a huge Tier0 (financial problems, etc.) Now we propose to ship the raw data and make the reconstruction in Tier1's. This will require very high network bandwidth. The size of Alice Computing should not exceed those of ATLAS and CMS. The size for DC should lead to the final system. The planning exercise was done by Alberto. 2006 - bye equipment for 2007 20% 2007 mostly proton beam, less data => no need for the full system 2007 -//- 2008 30% Estimate the multiplicity of the heavy ion events and the need 2008 -//- 2009 100% Yves presented the document The physics objectivities were not completely met: - simulation->reconstruction chain (not for all detectors) - simple analysis tools - not available for most of the tasks - digits in Root format (done) The number from the last production: - the size of the simulate events is much bigger than what we reported in the Hoffman review. The reason is that we keep hits, clusters, etc., which will not be there for the real experiment. During the next data challenge we have to decide what do we keep. The simplest possibility it to use temporary hits and then remove it. To be done (for the next DC): - introduce VirtualMC - move to NewIO - introduce the calibration - implement the ESD classes - add trigger classes - make internal planning POOL - RTag on the persistency (IO) - the basic idea was to use Root, but hiding it via abstract interfaces. The first version should be released... BLUEPRINT - RTag on the global architecture of the LCG (LHC Computing Grid) software. Proposes the following: - Python as a scripting language - ANAPHE as an abstract interface to Root (and to Lite histograming package, using ZEBRA) - Root for IO There was a discussion on the Alice position. Simulation RTag: VirtualMC and the geom. modeler were presented. ATLAS is interested in the virtual MC.