Regional Operations Centre (ROC) Managers' Weekly Meeting The meeting was held on the telephone by calling Italy +39 02 3700 9000 PIN available on request. 03.00 Contents -------------- 03.01 Time 03.02 Attendance 03.03 Meeting times 03.04 Minutes 03.05 Mailing lists 03.06 Agenda for Cork 03.07 Inducting new applications 03.08 Services on the EGEE-1 grid 03.09 Transition from LCG-2 to EGEE-1 03.10 Task breakdown structure for quarterly reporting 03.11 Joining conditions for partners joining at month 6 03.12 The Operations Advisory Group (OAG) 03.13 Trouble ticket exchange 03.14 Security 03.15 Quality Assurance 03.16 Date of next meeting 03.17 Conclusion 03.01 Time of meeting --------------------- 10:00 CET 13 April 2004. 03.02 Attendance ---------------- Federation 01 CERN Ian Bird (CERN - chairman), Alistair Mills (CERN - secretary) 02 Central - 03 France Rolf Romler (IN2P3) 04 Germany - 05 Italy Christina Vistoli (INFN) 06 UK John Gordon (RAL), Dave Kant (RAL) 07 Northern Pers Oster (KTH), Jules Wolfrat (SARA) 08 Southeast Kostas Koumantaros (GRNET) 09 Southwest - 10 Russia - 03.03 Meeting times ------------------- It was agreed that the group would meet regularly at 10:00 CET on Tuesdays. It would be agreed at one meeting the date and time of the following. The next meeting will be on Tuesday 27th April 2004, as the Kick off meeting in Cork, Ireland will be in session on Tuesday 20th April 2004. The telephone number for the meetings is given above. 03.04 Minutes ------------- It was agreed that Alistair would normally take the minutes of these meetings and they would be published in a timely manner before the next meeting. (Action Alistair) 03.05 Mailing lists ------------------- There is now a ROC manager mailing available at CERN: ?egee-roc-managers-list@cern.ch. Only people on the list can post and receive mail from the list. This is intended for discussions between members of the list. These discussions should be considered private to the group and are not intended for further dissemination. To join the list, it is necessary to send an e-mail to the Project Office? There is also a mailing list which anyone can join: egee-sa1-list@cern.ch. This mailing list is intended for disseminating information from the ROC managers. We expect that the RC managers and other interested parties will wish to join this list. To join the list, it is only necessary to send an email to the list? There may be a requirement for further lists. However until a need is clearly resolved for a further list, there is no intention to establish further lists. 03.06 Agenda for Cork --------------------- There was discussion about the agenda for the sessions at the conference at Cork. There was general agreement about the agenda to be followed. Ian agreed to update the pages on the web and to keep the various speakers informed. The various parties present at the meeting agreed to speak to fulfil the agenda. The agenda for the meeting is available in agenda.cern.ch. (Action Ian) 03.07 Inducting new applications -------------------------------- It was agreed that Alistair and Ian would make a proposal on this matter following the discussion at Cork. (Action Alistair and Ian) 03.08 Services on the EGEE-1 grid --------------------------------- Christina reported that she had prepared a note about this matter. She agreed to distribute it immediately via the closed mailing list. (Action Christina). NA3 has expressed a requirement that there be a training/ demo service available at least when required. We require a more definite statement of the requirement and a plan to meet the requirement. 03.09 Transition from LCG-2 to EGEE-1 ------------------------------------- There was discussion about the definition of the EGEE-1 grid service. While this will be similar to LCG-2, there is a need to clarify what it is, and how it differs from LCG-2. This is especially important for sites which are joining EGEE-1 which were not part of LCG-2. 03.10 Task breakdown structure for quarterly reporting ------------------------------------------------------ There is a requirement for a consistent and complete task breakdown structure for the activity. Ian and Alistair agreed to take an action to work on this and to make a proposal (Action Alistair and Ian). 03.11 Joining conditions for partners joining at month 6 -------------------------------------------------------- There is a requirement to have joining conditions for partners joining the project at month 6. These will have to be written and agreed. 03.12 The Operations Advisory Group (OAG) ----------------------------------------- The Technical Annex (TA) for the project proposes a body called the OAG. It was agreed that the ROC managers' would serve as this body, and that the meetings of the OAG would be the meetings of the ROC managers. [This body is equivalent to the GDB in LCG - Ed] 03.13 Trouble ticket exchange ----------------------------- There is a need to exchange technical information between ROCs. An obvious area is trouble tickets. It is not clear how to address this. This is a matter which has to be addressed. 03.14 Security -------------- Security is an item of considerable concern to many of the partners in EGEE. It was agreed that Ian would discuss this with JRA3 before the meeting in Cork. It was recognized that this would continue to be a matter of on going concern. (Action Ian). 03.15 Quality Assurance ----------------------- Activity JRA2 of EGEE deals with Quality Assurance. Gabriel Zaquine, the leader of JRA2 has requested a nomination to the JRA2 quality group (QAG) from SA1. It was agreed that Alistair would fulfil this request and report back when appropriate. (Action Alistair) 03.16 Date of next meeting -------------------------- Tuesday 27th April 2004 at 10:00 CET. 03.17 Conclusion ---------------- The meeting concluded at 10:40 CET.