IHEPCCC

Monday 17 May 2004, 15:00 → 19:00 Europe/Zurich

(GMT +2) worldwide participation via VRVS

guy wormser (LAL Orsay)

IHEPCCC's primary mission is to act as a forum between the main persons in charge of HEP computing, by gathering and distributing information about all relevant issues in HEP computing, and especially those with a global nature. Typical examples are information exchanges about new technology trends, computing centers' strategic policies, security issues, recommendation of standard practices, presentation of R&D results, comparison of various equipment performances.

15:00 → 18:15 session 1

Minutes of the first IHEPCCC meeting Monday May 17 Participants : (in Barcelona) M. Delfino, M. Kasemann, M. Mazzucato, L. Robertson, , M. Turala , P. Watkins, V. White, G. Wormser Via VRVS : H. Chen, B. Gibbard, R. Mount, A. Santoro, Y. Watase, F. Würtwein 1) All presentations are available at the following URL: http://agenda.cern.ch/fullAgenda.php?ida=a041864 Action item 1:(AH, GT, DB, PA, RS, DS) Post the summary on this page even if you did not participate to the meeting with a brief description of the computing activities in your area and your views of the role of IHEPCCC 2) Role of the IHEPCCC Many good suggestions were done during the meeting (see the attached presentations), and many pitfalls to avoid were also mentioned. Action item 2 (GW) Extract from the all the suggestions received, a draft prioritized work plan that will be circulated via email. The goal is to converge and adopt such a work plan at our next meeting. 3) Towards a HEP Virtual organization M. Delfino proposed to make use of the X509 certification technology to : a) create a permanently up-to-date list of bona fide HEP members b) in order to grant them a minimal number of services in all HEP labs (access to mail, web pages, print,..) The general principle was supported but more details were requested. On the basis of a written document (see below), IHEPCCC will decide whether to endorse this proposal and make a recommendation for its implementation. Action item 3: (all) Form from IHEPCCC membership a small working group to help Manuel prepare such a document which will expose the problems to solve, the technical solution proposed and a strategy for its implementation. Volunteers are asked to contact the chair by June 10 (who will fill the gaps if any by contacting some members ) 4) Creation of the Bureau IHEPCCC’s terms of reference mention explicitly the creation of a bureau whose task is to organize IHEPCCC meetings. Action item 4: (all) Volunteers are asked to contact the chair by June 10 (who will fill the gaps if any by contacting some members) 5)Technical committee T. Haas gave a presentation describing the role and achievements of HTASC, the European HEPCCC technical subcommittee and his views of the potential role and organization of a global HSTAC. Various opinions were expressed about the usefulness of such a committee, its potential overlap with other existing entities, the high cost to run it. A suggestion was made to rely upon regional subcommittees such as HTASC. Action item 5 (all) Identify whether existing regional or international committees can fulfil the role. Form a small working group out of IHEPCCC membership to progress on this issue. Volunteers are asked to contact the chair by June 10 (who will fill the gaps if any by contacting some members) 6) Secretary Action Item 6 (GW) Contact David Jacobs (CERN) to convince him to join IHEPCCC as a secretary. David is the present secretary of HEPCCC and makes an outstanding job. 7)Web page-Web master V. White volunteered to host the web Page at Fermilab. Stephanie Buchholz volunteered to maintain the web page for the next few months. Many thanks to both of you! It was suggested to keep using Agenda maker for each meeting presentations. Action item 7 (VW, SB) : Create the web page. Link the meeting information, IHEPCCC membership, terms of reference, next meeting, minutes,etc… 8) Report to ICFA GW informed the committee that he will report on our activities at the next ICFA meeting to be held during ICHEP mid August in Beijing. Action item 8 (GW): Circulate the report for comments to the committee before July 25 9) Next meetings It was decided to hold our next meeting just after CHEP04 (and not during the conference itself). The importance of maximum face-to-face presence was stressed. The date will be picked up to maximize Asian and US presence. (The conference ends Friday at noon) Action item 9 (all) Indicate your possibilities for each option below: Option 1: Friday Oct 1: afternoon /evening Interlaken Option 2 : Friday Oct 1 late afternoon CERN/ Saturday Oct 2 morning CERN Option 3 all day Saturday 2 at CERN Option 4 : all day Monday 5 at CERN The 2005 meetings will be held in Asia and in North America. Action item 10 (all) Identify an event with which a colocation might help (LHC GDB, GGF,etc..) which will take place in Asia or N.American Spring or Autumn 2005. Proposals for venues are also welcome. 10) Relation with regional committees It was mentioned that a meeting of HEPCCC devoted to define its future role if any in the context of IHEPCCC will be held on June 2. Several options exist, one of them being the replacement of HEPCCC by the “club” of the European members of HEPCCC complemented by an annual meetings with all parties involved. 11) agenda items for the next meeting Have been already identified: 1) Remainder of the personal presentations 2) Adoption of minutes- Follow up of action items 3) Discussion and adoption of the IHEPCCC work plan 4) Report of the “towards a HEP VO” working group 5) Report of the “ technical committee” working group 6) Dates and venue for 2005 meetings Action item 11 (all) Make suggestions for items and possible invited speakers 12) IHEPCCC name Our name is difficult to pronounce and takes for ever to enunciate. Better proposals are therefore most welcome Action item 12 (all) Suggest a better name. Suggest also a logo. The chair will happily offer a bottle of good wine to the winning proposal (or any equivalent high quality French product: foie gras, fromages,..)

15:00 Refine General Objectives of the committee and themes of work

Speaker: G. Wormser

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15:30 Round table presentation of each partner and/or region plans for HEP

16:45 Solving the roaming physicist problem: Towards a HEP Virtual Organization

Speaker: M. Delfino

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17:15 Housekeeping Issues