Akos Frohner (minutes)
Peter Kunszt
Ricardo Rocha
Krzysztof Nienartowicz
Gabor Gombas
Kalman Kovari
Paolo Badino
Daniel Rodrigues
Erwin Laure


Actions:

Slides for Frédéric: Péter prepares them and bounces around for review.
BS meeting: Krzys and Ákos would go there next week.
Slides for 7th of April: Krzys and Ákos, after the BS meeting with a
    better understanding of the requirements.



In the course of discussion on what shall we adverstise on Fireman:

    - performance? we can promise to implement a non-ws interface,
      if it is really needed.
      
    - metadata support: the interface is negotiated in the EGEE
      PTF with the experiments (ARDA group, to be precise)

    - web-services interface, with change management (EGEE PTF)
      has the advantage of support to various client languages:
      C (also a simplified C API), C++, Java, Perl and JavaScript
      (for web clients)

    - support? EGEE provides the support for Fireman, but what
      would happen, when EGEE finishes?

    - two implementations: MySQL and Oracle for laptop and production
      usage (two extreems)

    - POOL integration (ongoing effort)

    - distribution (planned, with a proof-of-concept prototype)

Experiment requirements (as we understood them so far):

    Alice: intends to use AliEn

    LHCb: open to suggestions, but first testing LFC

    CMS and ATLAS: emphasis on local catalogs, since they would 
        provide a higher level functionality with their own services
        We should understand better the dataset use cases!
        (-> Ákos should talk to Peter Elmer/CMS)

Dataset uses cases:

  1. bulk upload of files for datasets
      
      [Ákos: we are covered with the current Fireman]

  2. transfer of datasets

      this needs interaction with FTS/FPS/DS, which depends on
      what catalog is used actually

  3. access to dataset: look up dataset on a central service, which
     points to a local file catalog, describing the details of the
     datasets

       Q: what is ready, what could we offer from gLite? 

       a) experiment's dataset service
       b) metadata catalog as dataset service 
       c) Fireman as dataset service
       
       We should clarify the interactions (updates from local 
       catalogs and queries bouncing on the dataset catalog) 
       and fix them in some interfaces.