VOMRS <---> Voms-Admin convergence workshop 21-24 October 2008


Notes by Maria 
Last update 2008-10-30 with Andrea's comments

Attendance
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Andrea, Dimitar, Maria, Steve, Tanya, Vincenzo

Also on 22 October: Patricia M.(UNOSAT, GEAR, GEANT4), Alessandro de 
S.(ATLAS, by tel.), Joel C. and Roberto S.(LHCb), Martti P. (CMS).

and on 24 October am: Miguel A. (for the Oracle discussion).

Results of the vomrs functionality questionnaire to the VO Admins

Answers to the questionnaire by the VO Admins showed that there is not a single VOMRS feature we could ignore. Most features are used by all, those few not needed by some, are indispensable for others (e.g. point 6 on "Interfacing third-party directory during registration and membership validation", is the only way to authenticate for LHC VOs and requested by D-Grids).

VOMRS/Voms-Admin convergence plan

Going through the list of voms-admin development items (21 in total today) one by one, we saw the difficulty to pronounce any concrete deadline for the convergence. The required functionality involves a lot of voms-admin development effort. The EGEE-JRA1-Work-Plan-Tracking Task #7729 and dependent tasks 7719, 7720, 7721, 7722, 7723, 7725 contain very high-level descriptions compared to the expected functionality of the new voms-admin. A slightly more detailed list is this:
  1. Items required by the up-to-date Joint Security Policy Group JSPG Membership Management Policy document (or are very simple to implement) are of 1st priority and will be in voms-admin-server-2.5. Original date was August 2008 but now this work can be expected sometime between January and March 2009:
  2. Items on functionality required by VO Admins using VOMRS today will be done next (delivery date was not committed):
  3. Major development items remain the interface to an external information source. According to Andrea, this may come as late as the end of EGEE III (Spring 2010). LHC experiment VOs cannot live without this feature, which they use since 2005, following a GDB requirement:

    VOMRS future

    A.O.B.