CERN:  Oliver, Massimo L., John W., Maite B., John Shade

Phone: Daniele C., Marco Bencivenni, Horst Schwickerath., Vangelis F., Cal Loomis, Jeroen ??

Minutes: No comment

Action list:

Two things

Task 9915. NA4/firewall issue... more details needed

DC: No feedback yet.

Task 9916. Infosys publishing. DPM publishes all space tokens. But others don't.
           With SA1. Could cause problems for the Infosys.
           
DC: No news about this.

Task 6901. Request a few meetings ago. DM on our Grid complicated and sometimes
badly documented. This should be sorted out. Vangelis showed a doc where more
Use-cases being illustrated.

VF: (This can all be read in the document available).

OK: It's not a complete doc yet. Add SRM to go?

Marco: Yes. SRM and use of storage by Biology.

ML: Don't understand the mixture of Uses Cases and then having SRM which 
    is an implementation.

Marco: 

VF: The main target user community is the life-science one. Most interesting
    UCs and scenarios.

OK: It's UC vs. implementation...

ML: In Bio there's file-based UCs... could name the chapter as "Large Scale
    Storage" etc.

ML: Are there HEP use cases?

(Missed answer... I believe yes)

OK: Is there a HEP UC collection.

ML: Yes, old document... HEPCAL etc stuff.

** OAT Review
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OK: Operational Tools Update.

(Slides are available on the agenda)

Questions:

OK: NAGIOS? 

MB: Yes.

ML: ATLAS contributed an alternative viewer for SAM. Availability.
    Are you porting this as well? 

MB: Who uses this? 

ML: There were limitations in the SAM portal. CMS contributed a VO-specific viewing.
    Taken over by ATLAS. More generic. Does calculation of availability.

MB: The 4 LHC experiments go to SAM team meeting. Tool should be there if it's 
    important.

CL: Who to contact to make sure NA4 in the loop?

MB: John Shade.

OK: What's in store for milestone 2? NAGIOS?

MB: Yes. 

OK: How many NAGIOS sites? Experimented with SAM tests?

MB: 170. 

OK: Question from Steven... is the model "decentralization"?
    Regaional instances or regional views?

MB: NAGIOS - region instance.
    Will not achieve regional instances by end of EGEE-III.

CL: NAGIOS produces results... how are they sent to DB?

MB: Pushed through messaging.

VF: ActiveMQ? 

MB: (General answer)

OK: Follows the parallel of the RGMA discussion... 

** MPI Support
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OK: Did Jeroen join?

(Sounds like not)

(Now has joined)

Jeroen: FtF in AMS on 18th.
       
(Need a text summary here... not writing this verbatim)

Doc publicly readable... need the link.

Questions...

OK: Any comments?

JS: When you're at CERN please come by the SAM team office.

Jeroen: Will do. Bat 28 1st floor.

Jeroen: Central MPI support? EGI structure?

OK: Result of all this is a MW patch which will be deployed.
    We need to get names beside all these tasks that needs to be done
    Sustainable... need to identify things that need to be kept going.

** MATLAB
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(See doc attached to agenda)

VF: Licencing.

OK: Need to go to MATLAB for $$$ talks.

(See the doc for the numbers, provides support for all VOs it supports)

JW: We could get the price that CERN pays.

OK: We can't oblige sites to buy... but it could be useful for sites
    to take advantage?

OK: How many resource centers can you claim to represent?

VF: Up to resource centre itself to get the final price...

CL: Commercial or academic? MATLAB checks this.

OK: Licences... how will they work?

VF: Mathworks (MATLAB) to contact the sites? How should this be done?
    Who should Vangelis and MATLAB talk to within SA1 to see how this 
    should be done.

JS: Maite and/or Nick

** Multi-Platform Support
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(Summary on agenda page)

OK: (Reads this)

(Comments)

AOB
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Next Meeting: July 8th next scheduled meeting.