Hi Eduardo,

I am glad that you are already thinking about this.   In fact, Dick and I were also thinking about the same thing...   My replies to your message are embedded below.
On Jun 11, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Eduardo Gregores wrote:

> Hi Jae,
>
> It is about time to start discussing next DOSAR Workshop at São Paulo.
> Let´s start with easier things, date and location:
> - Date: September 24-25th
> - Location: SPRACE new location at Unesp Scientific Computing Center.
>
==> I remember that these were the dates and the locations we agreed.
> This place is where IFT moved into, the new building where GridUnesp is located. It is not as central as IFT used to be, but is just across a major subway-train-bus terminal, so that getting into it by subway (metro, as we call it here) is very simple, fast and safe. How many people do you think is coming from US? We are thinking putting you guys down-town nearby a metro station. Do you like Hilton?
>
==> This sounds wonderful.  I like Hilton as long as it is not too expensive...
> Now to the workshop contents. We would like to make a workshop that would be more into discussions then presentations, more talking then listening. On past years we learned very well how to do HEP computing, and how to make everything work together on the several frameworks we dealt with (SAM, SAMGRID, OSG, EGEE, DZero, CMS, Atlas, ...). We are now moving into a new challenge, and I think DOSAR must be so as well: how to interface with non-hep scientific community, how to transfer our accumulated expertise to other fields of science, how to insert dedicated hep resources into broader facilities and how to manage all this diversity.
==> I absolutely agree with this theme.   I think your points are exactly what we should be moving into.  One minor thing I would add is the use of virtual computing environment to harness as much available resources together as possible in an opportunistic fashion and use them for this purpose of going beyond HEP.
> These are the challenges we are facing as we put to work GridUnesp and I think these are the challenges for DOSAR to became what its name really stands for, and not just a collection of hep resources.
>
> So, I propose the theme for this workshop to be "DOSAR Beyond HEP". What do you think? What are your thoughts on this?
>
==> Sounds fantastic!
> Cheers,
>
> Eduardo Gregores