11th WG4 General Meeting

Europe/Zurich
Håkan Wennlöf (Nikhef National institute for subatomic physics (NL)), Marco Mandurrino (Universita e INFN Torino (IT))
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Marco Mandurrino
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The meeting opened at 15:00 and closed at 15:50.
The number of attendees was stable at 15 and peaked at 16.

General news:

  • DRD3 spokesperson elections are coming up, and a search committee has been formed
  • The next DRD3 week takes place in Amsterdam, 2nd to 6th of June. It is advisable to think both about abstracts and accommodation options already now
    • The WG4 session block is scheduled on the Thursday morning (5th of June)

 

Jörn Schwandt presented work on the Determination of Trapping Rates as Input for Allpix Squared Simulations

  • Inconsistencies between frameworks should be avoided; trapping rates are often simply taken from literature
  • Radiation damage models like the Hamburg Pentatrap Model match data well for a range of fluences and bias voltages
  • Electric fields and trap occupations and trapping times vary with sensor depth and bias voltage
    • Allpix Squared needs the possibility to import trapping time maps for more accurate modelling of the charge carrier motion after irradiation
  • It is also important to account for impact ionisation at high irradiation levels


Questions and Answers:

  • Marco M: Does the Perugia model use Trap Assisted Tunneling? Tommaso Croci: We don't use the Hurkx model. We use a different one, but TAT is used.
  • Tommaso Croci: Why is the Hurkx model so important? JS: At very high fields TAT is needed, and the Hurkx model is easier.
  • Michael Moll: How did you tune the gamma factor in the Hurkx TAT (slide 17)? JS: The Fgamma is a fixed value, only dependent on temperature.
  • Michael Moll: How do you come to a global trapping time? For MIP or laser? JS: It's the average trapping time over the thickness of the sensor.
  • Michael Moll: The holes are unexpected in the trapping (slide 8). Is this from the training data, or should we tune the model? JS: In old data with alpha-TCT this was seen too, but it's still an open question. Marco M: The slope of the fluence dependence is very consistent with data.
  • Marco M: Why is TAT so important? Does it depend on the simualted structure, or is it more fundamental? JS: Already at low electric fields there's an imnpact, so it should be taken into account.
  • Jürgen Burin: What's possible to do with traps in Allpix Squared, what's your goal with the studies? JS: What we're interested in is accurate test beam comparisons. The detrapping is not so important to us, we mainly need a trapping map, and impact ionisation. Håkan W: It should be relatively straightforward to implement trapping map reading in Allpix Sqaured at this point. Opening Gitlab issue for this.

 

The next meeting will be held in 2 weeks from now. The conveners will also announce the time for the next meeting via email.

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    • 15:00 15:10
      Introduction 10m
      Speakers: Marco Mandurrino (Universita e INFN Torino (IT)), Håkan Wennlöf (Nikhef National institute for subatomic physics (NL))
    • 15:10 16:40
      Updates on Simulations
      • 15:10
        CMOS simulation and connection between device-level and electronics simulations 15m

        monolithic sensor simulations - front-end electronics simulations - signal read-out and processing

      • 15:25
        Other detectors/technologies/activities 15m

        hybrid sensors (LGADs, 3D, strip detectors, …) - process simulation - particle-matter interaction - charge carrier transport

      • 15:40
        Newly measured semiconductor properties 15m

        non-silicon sensors simulation - gain layer/impact ionisation simulation

      • 15:55
        Radiation damage: validation with measurements and development of high-fluence models 15m

        definition of benchmark models - high-fluence models - radiation environment simulations

        Speaker: Dr Joern Schwandt (Hamburg University (DE))
      • 16:10
        Time dependent electric/weighting field 15m

        adaptive fields - signal formation in detectors with resistive electrodes - charge transport

      • 16:25
        Simulation tools development 15m

        integration of simulation tools - machine learning

    • 16:40 17:00
      Discussion and AoB 20m
      Speakers: Håkan Wennlöf (Nikhef National institute for subatomic physics (NL)), Marco Mandurrino (Universita e INFN Torino (IT))