WP6 coordination meeting #3

Europe/Zurich
892/1-B09 (CERN)

892/1-B09

CERN

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Claudia Ahdida
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-          B911 shaft shielding

o   Prompt dose rates were evaluated for the shaft in b911 without any concrete shielding

o   Preliminary results show low enough dose rates without shielding opening up removing (parts) of the shielding for routing of utilities

o   Final confirmation expected soon with higher statistics

o   Question about R2E constraints in shaft. Action/Oriol to contact Luigi (WP6)

-          Preliminary radioactive waste zoning

o   Dose rate surveys after short cool-down times were performed in TCC8/ECN3 allowing to classify the areas into 3 different zones:

§  A priori radioactive: TCC8 down to blue wall; in-beam equipment up to the decay tubes; in-beam equipment close to the ECN3 dump

§  Potentially radioactive: downstream NA62 detectors (e.g. straw stations)

§  A-priori non-radioactive: decay region (except from in-beam material)

o   Activation risks of liquid crypton calorimeter and its mechanical structure to be further investigated. Action/Fred to see if potentially samples could be taken

-          TCC8 dismantling simulations

o   New FLUKA simulations for residual dose rates taking shift of LS3 start into account for different cool-down times: Jan 2027 (6 months cool-down) and Sep 2027 (1 year and 2 months cool-down)

o   Residual dose rates with and without equipment were investigated

o   Ongoing studies: Residual dose rates of standalone objects as well as of concrete blocks

-          RP waste:

o   For RWM it would be ideal to couple the dismantling and the packaging such that the waste items are directly placed in their respective disposal containers onsite. This option entails a grater planning effort but it reduces in the end the workload and exposure as the waste doesn’t need to be placed into a transport container, transported to the RWTCS, further dismantled/sorted (if necessary) and packaged into its disposal container. The alternative option is to decouple the dismantling from the packaging (easier planning). That is, we just plan the dismantling and the transport to the RWTCS. The additional dismantling/sorting and packaging are addressed separately

o   Input needed Action/Jean-Louis/STI:

§  The preliminary classification results are based on mass values that are often calculated as the product of the FLUKA volume and the material density. Actual mass values are needed

§  The masses and dimensions of the equipment groups are needed to identify the adequate transport and disposal containers to be used and, eventually, the separation strategy for those which need to be dismantled

-          Access & Safety Systems

o   Access system during TCC8 dismantling is being investigated (Action/Boris)

o   Budget from NA-CONS to be used for replacement of fire detection system

o   Overall NA-CONS budget for access and safety systems is being investigated (Action/Boris)

o   Action/Claudia: organize meeting with BE-DSO and EN-AA for access system elements (pre-LS3 and BDF operation)

For FIRIA, Safety and Occupational Safety check below minutes

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    • 16:30 16:35
      News 5m
      Speaker: Claudia Ahdida
    • 16:35 16:45
      B911 dose rates 10m
      Speaker: Olin Lyod Pinto (CERN)
    • 16:45 16:55
      TCC8/ECN3 radioactive waste zoning 10m
      Speaker: Frederic Lionel Aberle (CERN)
    • 16:55 17:05
    • 17:05 17:35
      Round table sub-worpackages 30m
      Speakers: Boris Morand (CERN), Claudia Ahdida, James John Scott Currie, Melania Averna (CERN), Mr Oriol Rios (CERN), Philippe Bertreix (CERN), Rahul Kallada Janardhan (HSE-OHS), Mr Renaud Charousset (CERN)
      • Safety 10m
        Speaker: Melania Averna (CERN)

        () TT7 Shielding recovery : meeting organised with F. Butin to discuss interface ( safety and project leaership)  between SCE and BE-EA

        () PSR review with Jamie - few bits and pieces to be addressed prior issuance 

        () SHiP LSD table to be shared with F. Butin

        () Decabling MEMO- meeting with EP and then follow up with F. Butin

        () Interface with EP - MEMO under discussion

        () Target Service building new layout process flow - ongoing

         

      • RP 10m
        Speaker: Claudia Ahdida
        • Finalization of TCC8 dismantling studies (res. dose rates of standalone ojects, concrete shielding)
        • Beam stopper requirements (together w/ WP2/WP3)
        • BDF / NA62 soil activation studies
      • Radioactive Transport & Waste Management 10m
        Speakers: Philippe Bertreix (CERN), Mr Renaud Charousset (CERN)

        Paolo has updated the transport and RW preliminary calculations to account for the shift in the LS3 schedule and for the equipment grouping defined by Jean-Louis.

         

        The classification results show that all the equipment groups can be transported after 6 months and classified as FMA-VC after 3 years of decay. This is a very encouraging news, but let’s not forget that these are just preliminary estimates that will need to be confirmed/refined.

         

        List of points to be addressed:

         

        1. The preliminary classification results are based on mass values that are often calculated as the product of the FLUKA volume and the material density. We shall retrieve the actual mass values to consolidate our estimates.
        2. The masses and dimensions of the equipment groups are needed to identify the adequate transport and disposal containers to be used and, eventually, the separation strategy for those which need to be dismantled.
        3. For RWM it would be ideal to couple the dismantling and the packaging such that the waste items are directly placed in their respective disposal containers onsite. This option entails a grater planning effort but it reduces in the end the workload and exposure as the waste doesn’t need to be placed into a transport container, transported to the RWTCS, further dismantled/sorted (if necessary) and packaged into its disposal container. The alternative option is to decouple the dismantling from the packaging (easier planning). That is, we just plan the dismantling and the transport to the RWTCS. The additional dismantling/sorting and packaging are addressed separately.
      • FIRIA 10m
        Speaker: Rahul Kallada Janardhan (HSE-OHS)

        A prescriptive methodology for fire safety requirements was agreed upon for the service building. As the main risk of the service building pertains to RP, the fire safety requirements is obtained from the regulations governing structures that handle/manipulate/store/(other similar descriptors). 

        Radiation regulations that can provide requiements for FS shall be idenftified. Currently, as per RP group request, the following regulatory requirements for the service buildingare are being considered :

        1. Ordonnance du DFI sur l'utilisation des matières radioactives (OUMR)
        2. Ordonnance sur la radioprotection (ORaP)

        However, the applicability of the French regulations (La réglementation de la prévention des risques et de la protection de l'environnement) also needs to be verified. The safety concept will also be compatible with Code du Travail requirements. 

        This task would be simplified if the regulatory approach is clarified. 

      • Access & Safety Systems 10m
        Speaker: Boris Morand (CERN)

        o  Access system during TCC8 dismantling is being investigated

        o   Budget from NA-CONS to be used for replacement of fire detection system

        o  Overall NA-CONS budget for access and safety systems is being investigated

      • Occupational Safety 10m
        Speaker: James John Scott Currie

        Project Safety Requirements document revision 2 to be released shortly. Following this a more specific revision will be developed, building towards the TDR.

        Discussion scheduled with HSE-ENV to further develop any requirements or studies needed going forward.

        Discussion scheduled with CERN FRS to start developing Emergency Preparedness Plan for HI-ECN3 Facility.

        Organising a HVAC Safety coordination meeting between Andre Henriques and Francesco Dragoni.

        Structural Safety – Confirming with Marco Andreini for the running of the sonic test for site seismic classification testing according to Eurocode 8: Design of structures for earthquake resistance.