Present: A. Butterworth, I. Karpov, O. Brunner, W. Hofle, K. Canderan, L. Valle, F. Peauger, J. Heron
Discussion
Cryogenic safety and access to RF zones
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Sectorization of the RF zones is not a hard separation, rather a way of calculating air flow.
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Proposal that the smoke extraction system be used for helium
- A problem is the sensor to extraction delay which is about 30 seconds.
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Will need to empty all cryomodules in the walking path to module which needs to be accessed.
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Trying to design around the worst case scenario:
- New experiments and studies needed, as the worst case scenario is realistically an overestimate. Accident/consequences to be refined.
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Can avoid cavity quench loss of He in FCC as they do at ESS. Unlike LHC, where the release valves open on overpressure. To be checked in LHC.
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Circumventing access problems with remote manipulation:
- Robots for inspection but also for interventions.
- Specific RF robot, or the same one as in the arcs
- Different robots for collider and booster, as the CMs are either on the ceiling or the floor.
- We should try to sketch interventions which are possible for robots. Space constraints are different in different places.
- Fault categorization: classify into remote repairable, repairable from klystron gallery, common mode faults, child faults, electrical glitches etc. Can then decide if a robot is worth it, looking at the likelihood of faults.
Transverse damper
- TFB is combined with depolarizer. Makes it more complicated for degraded mode.
- IPAC paper in 2024 was a snapshot at the time, number of kickers (24) more or less defined, 25ns spacing and bunch pattern defined.
- Potential physics bunch spacing of 5ns for e-cloud, would need change of bandwidth.
- Optics choice.
- There is enough redundancy with 24 kickers for TFB operation but maybe not for depolarization.
- System distributed over 4 locations per ring, gives redundancy against electrical loss etc.
- Loss of synchronization with frev could be a common mode failure. If distributed over White Rabbit what is the redundancy?
- Instability damping is only needed at the Z working point. For W it is still needed for HOM instability. We can remove it for reliability considerations at the H and ttbar working points.
- TFB in the booster: what is needed for polarized bunches? More complex than in the collider.
- Possibly required to do active depolarization of physics bunches in the collider.
- E-POL group meeting: https://indico.cern.ch/event/1610901/
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