WLCG DOMA BDT Meeting

Wednesday 19 Jul 2023, 16:30 → 17:30 Europe/Zurich

Brian Paul Bockelman (University of Wisconsin Madison (US)), Maria Arsuaga Rios (CERN), Petr Vokac (Czech Technical University in Prague (CZ))

Topic: WLCG DOMA BDT Meeting (twiki)

16:30 → 16:35 News

16:35 → 17:00 Tape REST access

Speaker: Mihai PATRASCOIU (CERN)

• Minimum required dCache for TAPE REST is 8.2.22
  • issues discovered with FZK recalls from tape GGUS:161903
  • dCache updated to allow path size 1024 characters long (8.2.21 supports just 255 characters)
    • additional optimization / improvements available only in 9.x branch dCache#7104
• ATLAS started deployment campaign
  • BNL mentioned dCache developers recommendation is to wait for 9.2
    • Al - performance improvements in 9.2 to support millions of transfers with TAPE REST
    • P.V. there is a limit in FTS for ~ 100k staging requests
      • I hope we should be fine also with dCache 8.2
      • no performance issues observed with FZK that use TAPE REST since April
        • staging ~ 200k files per month
    • already upgraded testbed to dCache 8.2.25 - started with TAPE REST validation
  • PIC - tape REST configured ~ a month ago
    • shared doors webdav-at1.pic.es for all WebDAV transfers (disk & tape areas)
    • manual tests works fine, but we are still trying to understand if their namespace organization is compatible with ATLAS plans for tokens / access with capabilities (storage.* scopes)
  • sufficient dCache versions for ATLAS T1 tapes
    • FZK - 8.2.22
    • NDGF-T1 - 8.2.23
    • pic - 8.2.22
    • SARA - 8.2.24
  • difference of behavior in FTS < 3.12.8 regarding the retention of staged files after they are transferred FTS-1913 (resolved)
    • new 3.12.9 release planned for first week in August
    • 3.12.8 is not going to be deployed at CERN and these FTS instances will jump directly to 3.12.9

17:00 → 17:09 Transfers with tokens

Speaker: Francesco Giacomini (INFN CNAF)

home directories

• does users access their EOS home area using grid protocols (e.g. root://eosuser.cern.ch//eos/user/[l]/[login])?
  • yes (Maarten mentioned CMS?)
• do we expect this area should be accessible with grid protocols using tokens?
  • yes, but first we have to solve grid workflows
• P.V. current profile and CERN EOS namespace organization is not compatible with token access with capabilities
  • we can't set basepath for multiple issuers to /eos/user
  • multiple experiments (at least VO / IAM Admins) would have full access to the data of any CERN user
  • description of storage.read:/home in the profile is not really clear to me

storage.create issues

• WLCG JWT profile storage.create definition: Upload data. This includes renaming files if the destination file does not already exist...
• what does this mean in case we don't use file level token granularity, e.g. for storage.create:/atlasdatadisk/
  • this token can be used to make a mess in the namespace (rename all files in /atlasdatadisk/)
  • rename /atlasdatadisk/mc23_13p6TeV to /atlasdatadisk/RANDOM_STRING directories(?)
  • rename /atlasdatadisk/mc23_13p6TeV/filename to /atlasdatadisk/DIFFERENT_RANDOM_STRING(?)
    • it is not completely clear from profile what exactly renaming mean
    • might be a bit more tricky for object storage where directories are a bit artificial construct
  • still much better situation than with X.509 - impossible to destroy data
• how can we prevent abuse of this "renaming" functionality
  • always use tokens with file level access granularity (IAM performance)?
    • ALICE use file level token granularity, but they don't use IAM for file transfers
    • cleanest solution with our current WLCG JWT profile
      • this would mean for ATLAS ~ 2.5M storage.create tokens per day in average (~ 30 tokens per second)
  • get rid of "rename" from WLCG JWT profile and storage implementations?
    • Rucio can be configured not to use different name (with .rucio.upload suffix) during upload
  • atomic "PUT+CHECKSUM+RENAME" operation (rename after successful transfer)?
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• recovering from damage caused by abusing too wide renaming allowed with e.g. storage.create:/atlasdatadisk/
  • for distributed storage management we have all metadata also e.g. in Rucio
  • with (non-negligible effort) filesize + checksum could be used to recover original filename

FTS tokens design - token validation

• we should try to follow design document and ask IAM for all tokens that will be used in FTS transfers
• validate that IAM provides expected functionality, e.g. token exchange configuration
  • token exchange (example)

17:09 → 17:10 Packet marking

Speakers: Marian Babik (CERN), Shawn Mc Kee (University of Michigan (US))

   
- The Working group is now focusing on packet pacing (next meeting in Sept.)
- Dale, Tim, Shawn and Marian have written a RFC draft that will be presented to the upcoming IETF (next week).  Opposition is expected by the IETF, but there is always the possibility to publish it as a documentation of the use of the flowlabel field.
- Draft: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-cc-v6ops-wlcg-flow-label-marking-02.html
- WG is also working with the dCache and XRoot developers to  follow up on the flow marking (fireflies) implementation

 

Meeting notes

• dCache with fireflies configured at AGLT2
• fireflies may become available in dCache in next release or two
  • significant number of sites may sent fireflies during DC24
  • most probably just a simple configuration option on/off
  • fireflies sent along the path with data but in addition they can be sent to central collector(s)
• packet marking is more tricky with dCache (no direct access to sockets in Java)
  • needs flowd service
  • eBPF flow level rewriting - last SC22 showed 200Gb is reachable
  • expected to have 10% sites configured also with packet marking

17:10 → 17:25 WebDAV Error Message Improvement Project & unified error message format

Discuss with experts improvements in the error messages produced by failed transfers.
https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/LCG/WebdavErrorImprovement

Speaker: Stephan Lammel (Fermi National Accelerator Lab. (US))

17:25 → 17:30 AOB

IAM Hackathon @ RAL next week