Present:
P Oster: BalticGrid
R Barbera: EELA, EUChinaGrid, EUMedGrid
F Ruggieri: EUChinaGrid, EUMedGrid
G Andronico: EUChinaGrid, EUMedGrid
O. Prnjat: SEE-GRID-2
B Jones: EGEE-II
A. Masoni: EUIndiaGrid
J. Casado: EELA
B. Marechal: EELA
Our discussion means we will not have the phone conference on 20th March but rather we agreed that those projects submitting proposals to the May calls will distribute drafts (including on the programme of work) by the end of March.
The latest information concerning the project plans are as follows:
Projects intending to submit a proposal to call INFRA-2007-1.2.2: Deployment of e-Infrastructures for scientific communities:
BalticGrid: 3M
EUMedGrid: 3-5M
EELA: 4-5M
ETICS: no details yet
Projects intending to submit a proposal to call INFRA-2007-1.2.3: e-Science Grid infrastructures:
EGEE: 35M
EUIndiaGrid: budget not yet defined
EUChinaGrid: budget not yet defined (will be linked to EUIndiaGrid but idea of Pan-Asia project has been dropped)
OMII-Europe, ICEAGE, DEISA: no details yet
Synchronised work-plans:
Ognjen reminded everyone that we had a list of areas where we would synchronise our work-plans and these should be addressed by each project based on the set of recommendations:
Rec1: Sustainable network is a pre-requisite for regional Grids.
Rec2: Regional Grids should continue to act as incubators for new sites, new applications and new data layer integration.
Rec3: Use NGI as the centre of gravity and driver for infrastructure expansion.
Rec4: Organize in federations with clear relations and modus operandi.
Distribute Grid and management services to spread the know-how and ensure joint responsibility and control.
Rec5: A minimum technical specification and requirements for a self-standing ROC need to be defined. Procedure for assignment of countries/sites to ROCs has to be clear.
Rec6: Aim to have possibility of stand-alone operations, independent on related federated Grids and projects, but interoperable and inter-operational.
Rec7: Catch-all VOs on regional and national level prove to be flexible and efficient for deployment of new applications on-the-fly. A hierarchy of regional and national VOs should be established. This is practice is somewhat easier to implement in regional projects which are by definition more cohesive.
Rec8: Collaboration on SLA definitions over regions is important.
Rec9: Contribution to standards and community groups like GIN OGF is important. Regional projects should contribute to standards in a coordinated way.
Rec10: Collaboration of regional Grid projects on joint development and deployment of operational and infrastructural tools (or sharing of already developed ones) should be encouraged.
Rec11: Uniform application categorization over projects will help collaboration.
Rec12: Identify cross-project communities is important.
Rec13: Criteria for application selection should be established and compared over the projects
Rec14: A gridifcation guide would be a valuable thing for users.
Rec15: Problem of providing a similar approach to training infrastructure should be considered by the regional Grid projects; this t-infrastructure must be reliable and must provide enough resources for timely execution of test jobs submitted during training events (the same for storage resources);
Rec16: Regional Projects should have an active joint voice in EGI proposal/project formulation - a member of regional projects might be considered as part of EGI task force.
This meeting highlighted training with all projects contributing to GILDA with sites and also running a common training VO on the production sites. The ability to pre-allocate resources for upcoming events was also requested.
Dissemination and outreach - the projects agreed to identify a “contributor” for iSGTW and commit to providing X articles per year. Also foresee money for stands to major events such as user forum, annual conference etc.
Operations – projects should identify a ROC to take responsibility for new countries and their sites.
Standards – project should contribute to GIN in OGF
EGI:
All projects agreed to put in their proposal that they will collaborate with the EGI Design Project to help define the global relations of EGI with the other regions.
EGI will be presented at ISGC2007 in Taipei at the end of March and a similar event for Latin American would be the EELA conference in Brazil in June to which EELA should invite Dieter Kranzlmüller to present EGI.
Federico also raised the point of making sure we sufficient high-level exposure for long-term support of the infrastructure and its global connections. Since the next EU presidency is Lisbon it was though that organising an event in the 2nd half of 2007 (perhaps to coincide with EGI design project launching) in Portugal that can piggy-back on a high-level event would give sufficient visibility.
We should see with the national EU representatives to identify a suitable event – Federico will follow-up on this point since it is linked to a recommendation from the reviewers for EUMedGrid project.
Bob mentioned the recent NGI report from EGEE which is available here: https://edms.cern.ch/file/804043/1/EGEE-II-NA5-DNA5.1-804043-v4.doc
ESFRI:
Bob said EGEE has started to analyse the ESFRI projects (ftp://ftp.cordis.europa.eu/pub/esfri/docs/esfri-roadmap-report-26092006_en.pdf) to understand which ones could benefit from use of a grid infrastructure.
The other projects should do the same and identify those which have common partners (by examining each projects’ website listed in the report). We can then see where we can work together to help ensure these large, long-term projects can work with us on the use of grid infrastructure during their design stage. These ESFRI projects will design proposal in May and we should make sure they include computing architecture/grid prototyping in these proposals.
Summary of Actions:
- Projects submitting to INFRA-2007-1.2 in May should send a draft of their programme of work to this list by end of March
- EELA to invite Dieter Kranzlmüller to present EGI in Brazil in June
- Federico to try and identify suitable high-level event in Portugal for discussing sustainability
- Projects to mention intention to collaborate with EGI design project on defining global relations
- EELA, EUMedGrid, EUChinaGrid to write common article for iSGTW about their review on Madrid
- Examine ESFRI projects to determine interesting ones with common partners
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