S-FRS magnet tests in B180 - Impedance Spectroscopy
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Transfer-Function Measurements for Superconducting Magnets: goals and motivationSpeakers: Vasyl Drozd (GSI - Helmholtzzentrum fur Schwerionenforschung GmbH (DE)), Vasyl Drozd
Minutes of Meeting
Topic: Complex Impedance Spectroscopy for Super-FRS magnets
Date: 19 June 2026H. Bajas, M. Buzzio, M. Bednarek, V. Drozd, C. Petrone. G. Riddone, K. Sugita, A. Verweij
Objective
The meeting reviewed plans for frequency-domain transfer-function measurements of superconducting magnets. The goal of this activity is to perform complex impedance characterization, measuring the frequency-dependent electrical response of the Super-FRS magnets, to characterize impedance, resonances, and AC-loss-related effects, while comparing results with CERN experience to validate measurement methods and improve diagnostic capabilities.
Motivation
Transfer-function measurements are expected to provide characteristic fingerprints of individual magnets by applying AC excitation and recording both complex impedance magnitude and phase response over frequency.
Potentially detectable effects include:
- Inter-filamentary and eddy currents
- Current redistribution caused by inter-turn shorts
- Parasitic capacitances and resistive paths
- Non-linear behaviour and resonance phenomena
- Long-term drift and reproducibility changes
The measurements could help identify anomalous magnets, monitor changes over time, and support diagnostics relevant to quench protection and beam-performance studies.
Experimental Approach
Instrumentation
Several measurement configurations were discussed:
- LCR-meter-based measurements (currently using approximately 1 V AC excitation) operating Z/θ mode
- Common ground configuration not acceptable. Isolated grounding required and validated.
- Measurements through VTAPs and/or current leads
- Amplifier and shunt-based setup similar to CERN setups
- Simultaneous acquisition of magnetic signals using fluxmeters or field pickups
Participants emphasized the importance of measuring the magnetic response together with the electrical transfer function.
Validation through CERN setup Comparison
A key topic was the comparison of measurements with CERN experience and equipment.
Proposed actions include:
- Obtaining expert feedback on methodology
- Borrowing or reproducing CERN measurement hardware where possible
· Performing comparable measurements on warm and cold magnets with two measurement systems for comparison and verification.
Comparisons between warm, cold, pre-installation, post-transport, and post-powering measurements could help determine whether installation or operation introduces measurable changes.
Participants also recommended acquiring magnetic-field signals during frequency scans to evaluate field-ripple sensitivity, potentially down to the nanotesla level, and to correlate electrical and magnetic transfer characteristics.
Detection Sensitivity
- Potential sensitivity to inter-turn shorts.
- Difference between healthy and damaged coils may be only 1–2%.
- Need to demonstrate sufficient measurement precision, repeatability and reproducibility.
- Key question: are we certain that measurement uncertainty is below the observed variation?Modeling
Equivalent-circuit models are being used to reproduce measured responses. Elements of the equivalent scheme include:
- Inductances
- Parasitic coil-to-ground capacitance
- Parasitic coil turn-to-turn capacitance
- Parallel resistive paths
- Diode-like or non-linear elements
- Eddy current coupling, etc.
Model includes inductive behaviour, eddy currents and inter-turn short scenarios. Sharp feature observed in measurements is not yet reproduced by the model.
Preliminary room-temperature measurements show partial agreement with simulations. Model parameters such as capacitance and parallel resistance significantly influence resonance frequency and peak sharpness.
- Melvin’s PhD thesis about LHC dipole complex electrical model. One could profit from the modelling work done that time on LHC magnets.
Practical Considerations
Measurement Strategy
- Warm measurements for rapid testing and methodology validation.
- Cold and on-site measurements once suitable resources and scheduling become available.
- Dedicated tests on a single coil recommended.
- Kei reported the existence of damaged coils at Elytt that could be used for measurement to check if there is a difference.
Constraints
· CERN availability is limited and possible cooperative measurements need to be agreed in advance, specifically the comparative measurements between LCR-based measurements and the CERN system.
- Connector compatibility and access constraints must be addressed.
- The choice between automated connection systems and manual connections remains open.
- It is important to demonstrate that the measurement uncertainty, repeatability, and reproducibility limits are strictly below the 1–2% variations observed between healthy and defective coils.
Prioritization
Rather than immediately pursuing detailed modelling of every unit, it was suggested to measure a representative sample (up to approximately 20 magnets) to determine baseline and outliers. Detailed analysis can then be focused to interpret anomalous cases.
Open Questions
- Final scheduling and resource availability
- Connector and cabling configuration
- Baseline measurements on individual conductors versus complete loops
- Interpretation of the observed single dominant resonance
Conclusions
The participants agreed that the transfer-function measurement program is technically valuable and should proceed.
The recommended path forward is:
- Conduct initial warm measurements to establish reproducibility and validate the setup.
- Follow with cold and in-situ comparative measurements when scheduling permits.
- Include simultaneous magnetic-field measurements whenever possible.
- Focus first on screening a sample population of magnets to identify outliers before undertaking extensive modeling efforts.
- Demonstrate that measurement repeatability limits are significantly smaller than the differences distinguishing healthy and defective coils.
Action List
· Plan comparative measurements using the CERN setup and the LCR-based setup.
Vasyl, Mateusz
· Prepare cables and a connector adapter for testing with the CERN setup.
Vasyl
· In parallel, continue research measurements using the LCR setup.
Anthony , Vasyl
· Modeling and parameter scans for the interpretation of experimental results.
Anthony, Vasyl
· Finalize the measurement system for systematic measurements
Should be discussed at the next meeting
It has been agreed to share supporting documents and a concise summary through Indico to facilitate coordination and follow-up activities: https://indico.cern.ch/event/1701006/ .
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