GridPP Technical Meeting

Europe/London
Virtual Only

Virtual Only

Andrew McNab (University of Manchester), David Colling (Imperial College Sci., Tech. & Med. (GB))
Description

Fortnightly meeting for technical topics looking further ahead than the weekly ops meetings on Tuesdays. There are also dedicated storage group meeting on Wednesdays. Each topic can go beyond the nominal 5 minute slot whenever necessary.

Brief Notes

The purpose of the meeting was to stake stock and decide how to run these meetings. The agenda was therefore largely a red herring.

Storage

Largely due to lack of experiment engagement we are behind in the testing. So Sam is thinking about doing things at a GridPP level. So for example sharing storage (via xrootd federation) between reliable and less reliable site, e.g. UCL has storage at QMUL and perhaps testing within ScotGrid might be an  option. Other testing with Atlas is also planned.

There are at least two xrootd implementation on ceph.  Better integration with Rucio would be good.

Compute

The Liverpool experience with vac is very encouraging. Andrew is pushing to increase the number of VMs available e.g. CMS running again. All the GridPP VOs work? ALICE is also comingon board. HTCondor VMs are also being worked on which will benefit many of the VOs (Atlas, CMS and ALICE at least).

People are talking about federated OpenStack instances. This is coming from the Scientific Working Group.

SKA meeting next week will have a significant OpenStack component and we could learn from this. [ Do we need to pay for OpenStack installations rather than DIY? Does this (installation) count as capital? ] We need to point out that OpenStack is a platform and we need to build on top of it. We should suggest GridPP Dirac as part of this.

 

Services

Dirac services at Imperial. Possibly monitoring and analytics. Currently provided by CERN but maybe we could provide for others... anybody interested? Accounting is also part of this. Moving of Data? Perhaps interfacing with FTS (being worked on at Imperial for NA62 and MICE but generic).

Network

Generally  GridPP sites work OK.

 

Security

No change of direction. Most work is around the WLCG working groups. David Crooks is the chair of one these groups and this work is ongoing. There was also work on traceability. Operationally this needs.

 

Others....

Some experiments are looking at bursting data for several   hours .. a case for a Science DMZ?

 

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    • 11:00 11:20
      Federated Storage (or similar) 20m
      Speaker: Samuel Cadellin Skipsey
    • 11:20 11:25
      Tier-2 Evolution: Jobs in VMs 5m
      • Vac, Vac-in-a-Box, Vcycle 5m
        Speaker: Andrew McNab (University of Manchester)
      • ATLAS VMs & news 5m
        Speaker: Peter Love (Lancaster University (GB))
      • CMS VMs & news 5m
        Speaker: Andrew David Lahiff (STFC - Rutherford Appleton Lab. (GB))
      • LHCb VMs & news 5m
        Speaker: Andrew McNab (University of Manchester (GB))
      • GridPP DIRAC VMs and other experiments 5m
      • Site updates relating to Vac, Cloud, and VMs 5m

        Anything sites want to report this week

    • 11:25 11:30
      Tier-2 Evolution: Storage 5m
      Speaker: Samuel Cadellin Skipsey
    • 11:30 11:35
      Other updates from the Storage Group 5m
    • 11:35 11:40
      Networking including IPv6 5m
    • 11:40 11:45
      Security 5m
      Speaker: Ian Neilson (STFC RAL (GB))
    • 11:45 11:50
      GridPP DIRAC service 5m
      Speaker: Daniela Bauer (Imperial College Sci., Tech. & Med. (GB))
    • 11:50 11:55
      HEP Software Foundation 5m
      Speaker: Andrew McNab (University of Manchester)
    • 11:55 12:00
      AoB 5m