HEPiX Virtualisation Working Group Meeting Meeting Jan 25
Present (in no particular order):
Tony Cass, CERN
Ulrich Schwickerath, CERN
Ewan Roche, CERN
Stefan Roiser, CERN
Thomas Finnern, DESY
Owen Synge. DESY
Stefan Bujack, DESY
(spelling)
arkus Wengert, DESY (spelling)
Keith Chadwick. FNAL
John Gordon, RAL
Ian Collier, RAL
Michel Jouvin, LAL/GRIF
Mattieu Puel, CCIN2P
Andrew Washbrook, University of Edinburgh
Ian Gable, University of Victoria
This is the first meeting of the group. These meeting notes will be
broken down around the agenda items listed. If there are any omissions
or errors please let me know (Ian Gable <igable@uvic.ca)>.
1. Attendance---people and sites. To what extent can representatives
commit sites? If not, what more is needed?
- Tony asked to what extent people will able to commit to following
the outcomes of the working group.
- John Gordon commented that there is as yet no consensus as to what
we were committing to.
- Tony clarified that his goal is not to get commitments now but to
ensure that sites feel as a result of this working group process that
sites are adequately informed and participate. His desire that the
people from sites represent the views of the sites to the group.
- Keith commented that he was committed to bringing the results of the
working group to Fermi Security teams and other appropriate people, in
other words he is going to act as the 'interface' for Fermi Lab on the
subject.
- Owen and Thomas from DESY will also take the discussion to the
appropriate people at DESY and act as an interface in the same way.
- Tony asked that this discussion be noted in the minutes and that other group
members take care to interface to the appropriate people at their site as it is
important to the successful outcome of the working group.
2. Review list of work areas
Tony listed the areas of concern and asked if this was an exhaustive
list:
How images can be:
- generated securely and traceably
- transmitted securely and efficiently
- expired and revoked.
- customized to meet individual site requirements
- used with different hypervisors
- Owen Synge commented that we need to discuss if it's an actual image
that is being distributed or rather a process for creating an image.
- John Gordon commented that it might lead to more site confidence in
the images
- Tony commented that he didn't want to get into the details at this
point but it should be a point for discussion in the group
- Tony mentioned that he was working to get people identified to lead
the work on the areas identified above. He has emails out to some
people and is waiting to hear back
- Tony solicits input on who should be involved with the different
work areas.
3. Meetings
Tony asked if the group would like to stick to phone meetings or have
some face to face meetings:
- Mattieu Puel would prefer to meet people in person as it makes
communication much easier, especially given the multilingual nature of
the working group.
- Michel Jouvin commented that a face to face meeting is necessary for
the cohesiveness of the group.
The group then discussed the suitability of the upcoming Amsterdam GDB
(March 24th) meeting or the the Lisbon HEPiX (April 19 to 23). For
people coming from the US the notice for March 24th might be short (US
DOE requires 60 working days notice). Tony resolved to explore
immediately with Michel the possibility of holding a meeting at HEPiX.
4. Assigning tasks to people
Tony asked if it was reasonable to look for people to lead the various
work areas. There were no objections. Tony commented that this will be
the focus between now and the next meeting. He is also interested in
receiving suggestions on this.
5. Next Meeting
The next will occur at 16:00 UTC Feb 8.