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Training Planning Meeting
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Europe/Zurich
Meeting 2020-03-02
Present: Adam Parker, Dan Katz, David Lange, Erik Madison Bray, Kilian Lieret, Martino Sorbaro Sindaci, Sam Meehan, Sudhir Malik
Graeme will be late (~16h?) due to a clashing meeting.
Software Carpentry @CERN
Registrations
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75 people are signed up. Statistically…
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CMS 36
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ATLAS 23
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Other 12
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LHCb 4
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I think ALICE just failed to advertise this at all, should we chase?
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Other experiments are 1 FASER, 1 Mu2e, plus 1 from beams (BE-ABP-HSC). The rest are undeclared
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By experience (duration in the field):
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< 1 year 17
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1 – 2 years 17
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2 - 3 years 13
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> 3 years 28
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By PhD date:
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I'm still working on it 32
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<5 years 9
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>= 5 years 11
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A PhD is not for me 2
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Aim for 60 people enrolling…
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Prioritise younger people at PhD level (still doing PhD or <5 years - that would be 41 people right now, probably ok for an initial tranche of places)
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N.B. one person was accepted already (the Mu2e guy) as this was to try and bootstrap the site access procedure in Indico (that was missing on Friday morning)
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Other Matters
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SC people have created an agenda (apparently they need this internally), https://martinosorb.github.io/2020-03-24-cern/
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I don’t think we should tell students about this - two places to look = confusion
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But we should make sure they are consistent (the SC training times looked optimistic to me)
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Curriculum: we seemed to converge on this
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Need to finalise how we’ll ask students to install Python
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SC method is pure anaconda
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StarterKit method is miniconda + conda-forge, https://hsf-training.github.io/analysis-essentials/index.html#prerequisites
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Graeme’s comment: I prefer the StarterKit way as there is far less likely to be a clash with HEP packages that are only in conda-forge (ROOT+uproot+awkward), that will help avoid confusion and loss of time on Friday
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Might be helpful if a few people did a trial run to see if they can make it all work...
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TODO: Graeme to order the coffee and croissants!
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Worries: Coronavirus and access or travel restrictions that might arise
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OTOH: we have little upfront investment so fingers crossed…
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