HEPiX IPv6 working group meeting

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David Kelsey (Science and Technology Facilities Council STFC (GB))
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The timings are approximate.

 

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64006864374
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Edoardo Martelli
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Maria Del Carmen Misa Moreira, Costin Grigoras, Andrea Sciabà
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HEPiX IPv6 working group - Zoom meeting. 28 July 2022 at 16:00 CEST

 

Notes by DaveK

 

Present: Andrea, Bruno, Carmen, DaveK, Duncan, Edoardo, Francesco, Hiro, Martin, Raja

 

Agreed agenda and issues from last meeting were noted.

1. Work by Carmen and Edoardo to continue (xRoot, FTS - for all/any experiment)
2. Francesco - identify islands of IPv6-only and investigate issues. Make contact with CERN IPv6-only testbed to see what their plans are now.
3. Bruno to update wiki with issues he and KIT have found
4. Continue pressure on dCache updates and dual-stack deployment on WNs

 

Roundtable updates

CMS (Andrea). configuration of job submission has been modified such that IPv6 is now preferred for HT Condor. Sched-d also moving to dual stack.

 

KIT (Bruno) - showed slides (attached to agenda). Now seeing increase in IPv6 traffic following dCache upgrades to 7.2.17. Noted that CVMFS_IPFAMILY_PREFER now working too.

 

Duncan (dCache) - reported he continues to track upgrades to releases that properly prefer IPv6.  39 out of 55 systems are now updated.. 

Tier 2 status

Andrea reported that the Wuppertal Prod ticket has been closed. All done but still awaiting confirmation by ATLAS.

CMS MIT nodes (xRootD) are now being made IPv6 capable

 

Study of reasons for use of IPv4 between dual-stack systems (Carmen)

Carmen has no slides today - but work has continued on xrootD transfers. 100% of servers at CERN are dual-stack but some clients are not dual-stack. This is observation of the client and server configurations (and DNS). There is no record of protocol used in the detailed logs of actual transfers.  Carmen plans to present more at the next meeting.

 

Andrea: Does the EOS server have information about protocol used?  Andrea will investigate.

Tickets on logging from Duncan (1349, 1693, DMC-1311). New information reported from Mihail. Andrea will ask for more info.

 

Other issues

We discussed at what point we should ask WLCG MB for a mandate to ask all WLCG Clients to prefer IPv6.  Not felt to be appropriate right now as we need to continue work and investigations. We will come back to this.

 

Francesco reported that he had made contact with Ben Jones at CERN about the IPv6-only testbed.  There are no plans to remove the testbed but active work by experiments is still limited, with ALICE for example not yet being ready to test. We wondered what would be required to gain access to WN log files.  Hiro reported that they could perhaps set up an IPv6 testbed at BNL.

 

It was noted that the IPv6 traffic seen on LHCOP/LHCONE at CERN in June had increased significantly, while this same peak is not see in FTS data. Nor is the increase seen in the linecard stats.  Is the data flawed in some way?  Edoardo will check the July data when that month has ended. 

 

Date of next meetings.

August and September dates/time were changed to maximise attendance of today's participants. There was also concern as to whether the in person meeting planned for Wed 26 October would have to move to 27th Oct (because of earlier request by P4 working group to meet after LHCOPN/LHCONE meeting).

Thursday 25 August meeting was moved to Wednesday 24 August (still at same time 16:00 CEST).

Thursday 29 Sep meeting was moved to Wednesday 28 Sep - and time also changed to 15:00 CEST.

 note added on 24 August . P4 working group meeting has been cancelled, so our in-person meeting will be on Wednesday 26 October at CERN from 09:30 to 17:00

 

 

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    • 16:00 16:05
      Agree agenda - issues from last meeting 5m

      Draft minutes now uploaded to agenda page of last meeting - still needs a little more work.
      Ongoing work and actions coming out of that meeting:
      1. Work by Carmen and Edoardo to continue (xRoot, FTS - for all/any experiment)
      2. Francesco - identify islands of IPv6-only and investigate issues. Make contact with CERN IPv6-only testbed to see what their plans are now.
      3. Bruno to update wiki with issues he and KIT have found
      4. Continue pressure on dCache updates and dual-stack deployment on WNs

    • 16:05 16:20
      Roundtable updates 15m
    • 16:20 16:30
      Tier2/LHCOPN/LHCONE status 10m
      Speakers: Dr Andrea Sciabà (CERN), Bruno Heinrich Hoeft (KIT - Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (DE))
    • 16:30 16:45
      Studies to understand use of IPV4 between 2 dual-stack endpoints 15m

      Any news?

      Speakers: Bruno Heinrich Hoeft (KIT - Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (DE)), Edoardo Martelli (CERN), Francesco Prelz (Università degli Studi e INFN Milano (IT)), Maria Del Carmen Misa Moreira (CERN)
    • 16:45 16:55
      Other issues 10m

      Traffic monitoring at CERN for LHCOPN/ONE?
      Any updates on IPv6 to IPv4 fallback?

    • 16:55 17:00
      AOB and next meetings 5m

      Next “in person” meeting at CERN will be a full day (09:00 to 17:00 CEST) on Wednesday 26 October 2022. This is timed to follow the LHCOPN/LHCONE meeting (also in person at CERN) on Monday/Tuesday 24/25 October. The agenda for LHCONE is at https://indico.cern.ch/event/1146558/

      Regular monthly one-hour Zoom meetings (on last Thursday of month) were defined for 28 July 2022, 25 August, and 29 September. All those one hour meetings run from 16:00 to 17:00 CEST.