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● Moteur et embrayage

  • motors offer will come (confirmed by manufacturer)
  • gearbox offer to followup (Morad: after return from CAS so far no answer)
  • 37 motors + gearboxes needed, for NACONS for the LS3 installation there is only ±10 needed
  • USA material, but probably ordered by EU representative so we avoid non-EU purchase

 

Morad informs, that some gearbox types are available in radiospares. Option to buy what they have and check conformity.

 

Federico: We should ask more money on NACONS for 2025 (either add to running project, or ask as a new contribution)

For the motors + gearbox we wait until Morad gets full price offer

 

 

TODO David: clarify with Federico whether money requested (already)

TODO David: clarify with Federico whether a BIFT presentation should be made by operators for installations not needing movable parts

TODO Morad: get completed offer for motors + gearboxes

 

● Design Flex

Aurelie: we might be able to use short radiation tolerant cables, SHV radhard connectors are needed on patchbox.

Michel: High voltage bias goes through one of the pins in 2x SUBD 26 high density connectors. Signals are connected by crimping. This is standard done in ISOLDE and we'll re-copy to the new installations.

Chiara: Control 1+2 will be done in ML. First done by Ben or William, second by  Morad or Christophe). The third control will be in PM section, either David or Michel.

 

TODO Lucas: present on the next meeting already available 3D models 

● BSI Et BSP à remplacer au prochain YETS

Christophe confirms, that all foils are the titanium version. Confirms as well that all the tanks are available.

● Integration

  • There are some naming conventions to change due to changes in installation. The new names are proposed in 'Secondary Emission Monitors (SEM) activities for the SPS NA CONS Part 1 project' specification, soon to be released.
  • Aurelie points out criticality of contacting integration team as on some locations we'll need more than just changing the name. Christophe informs that there are 2 locations, where is no space for additional BSG and we will need to discuss with integration how to deal it - either change position of BSG, or move magnet to make a space.

 

TODO Aurelie: contact F. Galieazzi and/or Sylvain Girod to start discussion of the integration. Christophe provides necessary info to Aurelie for follow up on integration.

 

● ECRs

Aurelie proposes the document 'Secondary Emission Monitors (SEM) activities for the SPS NA CONS Part 1 project', currently circulating in overleaf, to be released. 

 

TODO David: Add MIchel, Lucas, Morad as co-authors

TODO Aurelie: release the document

 

 

● Grilles à produire

Foreseen to be produced for LS3:


◦ BSG.210350 (proto)
◦ 3 BSG P42
◦ 3 BSG TT20, TT21, TT23
◦ 3 BSG TBIU
◦ 4 BSP to BSG -> TT24

 

(everybody agrees)

 

TODO Morad: contact P. Frichot to produce grids of 0.5mm (P42), if success we go with this solution, if not there are old grid in stock, which can be used.

TODO All, next meeting: discuss if option using wires is possible for grid 0.5mm as a last resort

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    • 15:30 → 15:40
      Moteur et embrayage 10m

      Morad attend proposition de nouveau moteur et idem pour embrayage (contact avec Warner). Réponse d'ici 15j pour les deux.

      Speaker: Morad Hamani (CERN)
      • motors offer will come (confirmed by manufacturer)
      • gearbox offer to followup (Morad: after return from CAS so far no answer)
      • 37 motors + gearboxes needed, for NACONS for the LS3 installation there is only ±10 needed
      • USA material, but probably ordered by EU representative so we avoid non-EU purchase

       

      Morad informs, that some gearbox types are available in radiospares. Option to buy what they have and check conformity.

       

      Federico: We should ask more money on NACONS for 2025 (either add to running project, or ask as a new contribution)

      For the motors + gearbox we wait until Morad gets full price offer

       

       

      TODO David: clarify with Federico whether money requested (already)

      TODO David: clarify with Federico whether a BIFT presentation should be made by operators for installations not needing movable parts

      TODO Morad: get completed offer for motors + gearboxes

       

    • 15:40 → 15:55
      Design Flex 15m

      ◦ Discussion sur l’approbation des dessins (crtl 1 et 2) pousser pour faire en interne ML
      ◦ SHV ou SMA sur bride ? demander version rad hard

      Speakers: Chiara Pasquino (CERN), Christophe Vuitton (CERN), Lucas Limonet, Morad Hamani (CERN)

      Aurelie: we might be able to use short radiation tolerant cables, SHV radhard connectors are needed on patchbox.

      Michel: High voltage bias goes through one of the pins in 2x SUBD 26 high density connectors. Signals are connected by crimping. This is standard done in ISOLDE and we'll re-copy to the new installations.

      Chiara: Control 1+2 will be done in ML. First done by Ben or William, second by  Morad or Christophe). The third control will be in PM section, either David or Michel.

       

      TODO Lucas: present on the next meeting already available 3D models 

    • 15:55 → 16:05
      BSI Et BSP à remplacer au prochain YETS 10m

      ◦ Tanks BSP dispos, confirmer avec Chiara qu’un tank BSPI est prêt aussi, remplacer les feuilles Al par Ti si besoin
      ◦ En général : Morad et Christophe vont faire l’inventaire des tanks

      Speakers: Chiara Pasquino (CERN), Christophe Vuitton (CERN), Morad Hamani (CERN)

      Christophe confirms, that all foils are the titanium version. Confirms as well that all the tanks are available.

    • 16:05 → 16:20
      Integration 15m

      Contacter le plus vite possible pour les 3 BSGs TT20

      Speakers: Aurelie Noelle Goldblatt (CERN), Chiara Pasquino (CERN)
      • There are some naming conventions to change due to changes in installation. The new names are proposed in 'Secondary Emission Monitors (SEM) activities for the SPS NA CONS Part 1 project' specification, soon to be released.
      • Aurelie points out criticality of contacting integration team as on some locations we'll need more than just changing the name. Christophe informs that there are 2 locations, where is no space for additional BSG and we will need to discuss with integration how to deal it - either change position of BSG, or move magnet to make a space.

       

      TODO Aurelie: contact F. Galieazzi and/or Sylvain Girod to start discussion of the integration. Christophe provides necessary info to Aurelie for follow up on integration.

       

    • 16:20 → 16:40
      ECRs 20m
      • Compléter ou donner les infos/dessins à Aurélie
      • A publier?
      NA-CONS-LS3Review-Queries-PM.pdf
      NA-CONS-LS3Review-Queries-PM.pptx

      Aurelie proposes the document 'Secondary Emission Monitors (SEM) activities for the SPS NA CONS Part 1 project', currently circulating in overleaf, to be released. 

       

      TODO David: Add MIchel, Lucas, Morad as co-authors

      TODO Aurelie: release the document

       

       

    • 16:40 → 17:00
      Grilles à produire 20m

      Etat de production:
      ◦ BSG.210350 (proto)
      ◦ 3 BSG P42
      ◦ 3 BSG TT20
      ◦ 3 BSG TBIU
      ◦ 4 BSP to BSG

      Speaker: Christophe Vuitton (CERN)

      Foreseen to be produced for LS3:


      ◦ BSG.210350 (proto)
      ◦ 3 BSG P42
      ◦ 3 BSG TT20, TT21, TT23
      ◦ 3 BSG TBIU
      ◦ 4 BSP to BSG -> TT24

       

      (everybody agrees)

       

      TODO Morad: contact P. Frichot to produce grids of 0.5mm (P42), if success we go with this solution, if not there are old grid in stock, which can be used.

      TODO All, next meeting: discuss if option using wires is possible for grid 0.5mm as a last resort

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