13th WG4 General Meeting

Europe/Zurich
Håkan Wennlöf (Nikhef National institute for subatomic physics (NL)), Marco Mandurrino (Universita e INFN Torino (IT))
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Marco Mandurrino
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The meeting opened at 15:00 and closed at 15:45.
The number of attendees was stable at 17.

General news:

  • The next DRD3 week takes place in Amsterdam, 2nd to 6th of June. Abstract submission closes at noon on May 23rd. Please submit abstracts!
    • The WG4 session block is scheduled on the Thursday morning (5th of June)

 

Evridiki Chatzianagnostou presented work on TCAD simulations of 3D silicon sensors

  • Studying 3D silicon sensors, investigating the possibility of internal charge multiplication
  • Investigating different geometries; fully penetrating or partially penetrating electrodes
  • Looking at breakdown behaviour
    • Different geometries
    • Different  p-mechanism geometries
  • Investigating modifications of the end of the pillar, adding a "head" which seems to improve gain capabilities


Questions and Answers:

  • Gregor K: Similar studies were shown in a previous meeting. How would one go about making this round tip? How can it be etched? EC: FBK didn't immediately object to the idea, it seems possible. It's done using deep reactive ion etching. Martin v.B: Have discussed with Maurizio. Bosch process, isotropic. Colum with a ball on the end.
  • Gregor K: How are the doping profiles made? EC: Generic TCAD profiles, using an error function with 1.5 µm for diffusion.
  • Marco B: For the simulations using the heavy ion model deposition: how many different locations within a cell are tested? EC: Normally we look in the optimal position, between pillars. It is the best case scenario. Will later go to Allpix Squared to scan over the full pixel cell. Gregor K: It matters a lot where the deposition occurs; the gain is not the same across the cell. This was also seen in our work (see presentation at previous meeting).
  • Jürgen B: Why is this approach more radiation resistant? EC: better at maintaining gain than an LGAD, because type inversion does not affect the gain layer. Gregor K: There are two effects. Increasing space charge means more gain, and there is no acceptor removal. JB: The effect of traps will weaken the field. GK: It actually shapes the field. Trapping of charge carriers is the biggest issue. A smaller cell size helps here.
  • Håkan W: On p.7-8, the polygon breaks down much later than the circle. There seems to be something a bit odd here. EC: Might be due to how the circular p-stop geometry is created. The Ref/Eval window is tricky for round. Andrei D: I have a script for this, will provide it.
  • Jixing Y: Are these simulations based on three-dimensional geometries, and are surface damage models included? EC: Yes, they are three-dimensional, but no surface damage modelling on p.8. Later though. JY: Which surface damage model is used later? EC: Using fixed positive charge in the silicon dioxide.
  • Marco B: What's the frequency used for getting the CV curves? EC: 100 kHz. MB: This could be too large to account for the radiation damage properly. Recommend trying 1 kHz or 450 Hz, so the defects have time to be involved.
  • Jörn S: There is a silicon PM development using a similar geometry, could be worth having a look at. Tip SiPM or Tip Avalanche Photodiode.

 

Other updates:

 

 

The conveners will announce the time for the next meeting via email.

 
 
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    • 15:00 15:10
      Introduction 10m
      Speakers: Marco Mandurrino (Universita e INFN Torino (IT)), Håkan Wennlöf (Nikhef National institute for subatomic physics (NL))
    • 15:10 16:40
      Updates on Simulations
      • 15:10
        CMOS simulation and connection between device-level and electronics simulations 15m

        monolithic sensor simulations - front-end electronics simulations - signal read-out and processing

      • 15:25
        Other detectors/technologies/activities 15m

        hybrid sensors (LGADs, 3D, strip detectors, …) - process simulation - particle-matter interaction - charge carrier transport

        Speaker: Evridki Chatzianagnostou (Nikhef National institute for subatomic physics (NL))
      • 15:40
        Newly measured semiconductor properties 15m

        non-silicon sensors simulation - gain layer/impact ionisation simulation

      • 15:55
        Radiation damage: validation with measurements and development of high-fluence models 15m

        definition of benchmark models - high-fluence models - radiation environment simulations

      • 16:10
        Time dependent electric/weighting field 15m

        adaptive fields - signal formation in detectors with resistive electrodes - charge transport

      • 16:25
        Simulation tools development 15m

        integration of simulation tools - machine learning

    • 16:40 17:00
      Discussion and AoB 20m
      Speakers: Håkan Wennlöf (Nikhef National institute for subatomic physics (NL)), Marco Mandurrino (Universita e INFN Torino (IT))