WLCG Management Board #336

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Tommaso Boccali (INFN Sezione di Pisa)
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Andrea Sciabà
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    • 16:00 16:10
      Minutes and Matters Arising 10m

      News and matter arising
       • As discussed at the last MB, the only viable slot for the WLCG + HSF WS in the fall seems to be on Nov 2nd-6th. We received only one application (Bologna), which has given a presentation in December MB. We contacted the LHCC review panel and informed them, and they agree not to schedule upcoming LHCC reviews in that slot (and hopefully in its vicinity). We are still waiting for the green light by HSF to organize it in common; once that is done, we propose to start organizational meetings asap
       • Again about LHCC reviews, there are 3 in the pipeline:
           ○ CMS CDR: the document should be public shortly, with a review possible from April on
               § CMS: which is the CDR status?
           ○ ATLAS TDR: dates to be confirmed
               § Ok for a review in the Fall?
           ○ WLCG Roadmap: expected after the summer or later
              § Any comment from TCB?
       • CERN has submitted a Center of Excellence proposal (SHAKE - PI M. Girone), focused on 8 codes from lattice QCD and experimental HEP codes (generators, tracking, particle flow …), including a smaller part on sw tools (Rucio, CVMFS, ….). It includes a number of institutes, HPC centers and technology providers. Evaluation expected by the summer.
       • WLCG: new management
            ○ We will shortly do a check + update on the various mailing lists + the composition of boards on the web pages, since there seem to be some stale entries. In case of questions we will contact you
            ○ We would like to give the opportunity to experiments - centers etc to share with us their thoughts, ideas, even complaints via private chats. Feel free to contact with us for this. In the case of experiments, we would like to re-establish a regular chat on (for example) a bi-weekly basis 
            ○ The WLCG strategy 2024-2027 (approved in the Fall 2024)  is still the valid document for this first 2 years. We propose to have a first review of where we are at the next MB.
            ○ I sent to the CB chair the request to have David Britton (continuing) and Ale Di Girolamo as deputies. As per the WLCG annex 5, the CB needs to "endorse" it, and has been given up to Jan 27th for comments. In principle, the MB does not need to endorse, but I wanted to share the ongoing procedure. Given the new structure, where the WLCG  coordinator is not from CERN, I think it is important to have a solid connection with CERN/LCG.
       • We remind the centers to  communicate to Andrea Sciaba' details and even "initial inputs when possible" on the ongoing procurement procedures. There is evidence that the market is in complete turmoil (RAM prices primarily, but basically every piece of hardware …), and we should collect as many info as possible. Luckily we are entering LS3 …
       • There was on Friday the first meeting of the Capacity Planning task force, the scene was set and activities planned. 
       • Other Matters Arising:
           ○ Russia (and Ukraine) connection --> Edoardo
           ○ Julia on the update / preparation of "base requirements" for T2s

       

      • Update on JINR 5m
        Speaker: Edoardo Martelli (CERN)

        JINR:  Still waiting for feedback from the CERN legal team. No information from JINR.

        Kharkov-KIPT-LCG2: the issue with access to LHCONE channel has been resolved;  a contract with URAN (Ukranian NREN connected to GEANT) has been successfully concluded, ensuring stable access for the upcoming months.

      • Template for Tier-2 requirements page 5m
        Speaker: Julia Andreeva (CERN)

        https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/LCG/T2InputTemplate

    • 16:10 16:15
      Action List Review 5m
    • 16:15 16:25
      WLCG Service Report 10m
      Speakers: Panos Paparrigopoulos (CERN), Maarten Litmaath (CERN)
    • 16:25 16:35
      TCB Report 10m
      Speakers: Alessandro Di Girolamo (CERN), James Letts (Univ. of California San Diego (US))

      Report to WLCG MB #336 on Tuesday, January 20, 2025 at 16:00 (CERN)

      Pending Item from the Previous WLCG MB #335 (December 2025)

      From the TCB report to the last WLCG MB #335 on December 16th, there was a comment from CMS on the summary report from the WLCG Workshop on Heterogeneous Architectures concerning the statement, “ATLAS and CMS foreseeing being able to offload 15% or less of their wallclock time of processing to GPUs by the start of Run 4.” and that CMS will provide a range for the GPU offload.

      Reply from CMS (January 19th): “Recent estimates from the CMS Conceptual Design Report (CDR) process indicate that GPU acceleration could offload approximately 27–48% of the prompt reconstruction workload and 12–35% of the Monte Carlo simulation chain, depending on the success of ongoing R&D efforts. When combined across workflows, this corresponds to an overall GPU offload of roughly 15–40% of the total CMS computing workload, contingent on the achieved R&D outcomes.” [Ed: Emphasis added]

      OTF#8

      Indico: https://indico.cern.ch/event/1609088/

      The agenda for OTF#8 (see link above), which will focus on tape systems performance and evolution, is well-developed. Thank you to the DOMA Conveners Katy Ellis and Johannes Elmsheuser for their hard work in preparing the agenda. OTF#8 will take place at CERN during the afternoon of Tuesday, February 3rd and all day on February 4th.

      OTF#9

      OTF#9 [https://indico.cern.ch/event/1598655/] will be co-hosted with the HEPIX Spring 2026 Workshop in Lisbon, April 20-24, and will focus on Facilities Evolution. We are in the process of defining the goals of the session with the HEPiX organizers before their call for abstracts opens later this week.

      WLCG Technical Roadmap

      We have created new e-groups for the facilitators of the various chapters e.g. wlcg-technical-roadmap-ch2-facility-evolution, or wlcg-technical-roadmap-facilitators-all. After the WLCG Workshop on Heterogeneous Architectures in December, we got two new volunteers to help facilitate Chapter 8 of the Roadmap on “New Architectures and Infrastructures”, Ianna Osborne and Doug Benjamin, who will join Oxana Smirnova.

      We need to schedule a check-in meeting of the TCB in order to checkpoint progress on the various chapters. Our goal is to have a workable draft or the majority of the chapters to socialize by the time of the CHEP26 Conference in Bangkok in late May. The TCB has submitted an abstract to the Conference and we are hoping for a plenary presentation. 

      Text of the Abstract:

      WLCG Technical Evolution: Preparing for HL-LHC with a Community-Driven Roadmap

      Authors: The WLCG Technical Coordination Board: D. Benjamin, L. Betev, C. Bozzi, D. Britton, I. Chakaberia, B. Couturier, A. Dewhurst, A. Di Girolamo, K. Ellis, J. Elmsheuser, J. Flix, J. C. Luna, M. Litmaath, S. Lammel, J. Letts, M. Mascheroni, S. McKee, A. Melo, E. Moyse, I. Osborne, S. Piano, E. Sexton‑Kennedy, O. Smirnova, D. South, N. Srimanobhas, F. Stagni, and J. van Eldik

      With the end of Run 3 approaching, the Worldwide LHC Computing Grid (WLCG) is entering an important transition toward the HL-LHC era. To meet the substantial increase in data volume, computational requirements, and resource heterogeneity, while preserving reliability, sustainability, and community cohesion, we have launched the development of the WLCG Technical Roadmap 2026-2030, a consensus-driven, community-owned plan that identifies key gaps and defines concrete milestones across the infrastructure and services landscape.

      The roadmap outlines the major areas of evolution structured into nine chapters covering core areas such as data transfers, networking, facilities, authorization (tokens) & security, workflow management, and heterogeneous resources, including GPUs, High-Performance Computing, and Cloud. The coordination for these areas is handled by dedicated "Chapter Facilitators" within the WLCG Technical Coordination Board. Equally important is the evolution of the WLCG facilities themselves, covering compute provisioning, storage architectures (both disk and tape), networking capabilities, and the operational models required to support HL-LHC performance and reliability.

      The roadmap also outlines the main challenges ahead - technical, organizational, and community-related and proposes mechanisms to address them through coordinated development, shared milestones, and strengthened collaboration across experiments and facilities. We will present the structure, methodology, and mid-term action plan for the next couple of years together with the expected path toward full implementation.

      By presenting this roadmap at CHEP, we seek to engage the broader HEP community to gather feedback, foster collaboration, and build collective awareness. As one of the pillars of LHC physics and a cornerstone for data-intensive science, WLCG’s future relies on coordinated innovation and active community participation.

      Other Matters

      We need to get back to the XRootD Developers to see how the TCB can help with stakeholder outreach, perhaps in the context of the OTF meeting series.

       

    • 16:35 16:40
      AOB 5m
      • Next MB Meeting: Tuesday 17 Feb 2026 1m