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17th WG4 General Meeting
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Europe/Zurich
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The meeting opened at 15:00 and closed at 15:55.
The number of attendees was stable at 24.
General news:
- The 4th DRD3 week took place at CERN, 10th to 14th of November: https://indico.cern.ch/event/1581713/
- Good progress towards WG4 research goals from different groups
- The 7th Allpix Squared workshop will take place in Vienna, 28th to 30th of April 2026.
Sebastian Onder presented work Towards a Validated Mobility Model for 4H-SiC Detectors
- 4H-SiC parameters are inconsistent across literature
- Measurements for mobility parameters carried out
- Parameters used in an end-to-end simulation workflow, combining TCAD, Allpix Squared, and QUCS (for front-end electronics simulations)
- Important to include the inductance of the wirebond in the circuit simulations to reproduce the experimental results fully
Questions and Answers:
- Håkan W: For the simulations of alpha particle incidence, do you include air in the setup, as this may account a bit for the discrepancy? SO: No, it's in vacuum, but the measurements were also carried out in vacuum.
- Michael Moll: Why do you use Allpix Squared? Why not just TCAD, to get the transient pulses as well? SO: It is faster, and more flexible. In the end the pulses from simulations match data better when using Allpix Squared, compared to using TCAD. MM: Why is it different? SO: We do not fully know yet.
- Anastasiia Velyka: The charge deposition you use in TCAD is probably different than what you use in Allpix Squared. The rest should be almost identical.
- Kevin Heijhoff: TCAD gives a bit more smeared-out signal also in silicon. The diffusion might be different; there is potentially too much diffusion in TCAD.
- Anastasiia Velyka: Why do you think that the electric field is not uniform? SO: The doping concentration in the sensor is not fully uniform.
- Vagelis Gkougkousis: The Cauchy-Thomas mobility model is a low-field experimental fit. It is not valid at high fields, but a different and more sophisticated approach is needed.
- Kevin H: I don't think sdevice handles this.
- Anastasiia V: I think it can do.
- Marco M: You mentioned you need a fine mesh in TCAD. How do you balance it when going to a regularised mesh in Allpix Squared? SO: I use a finer mesh than the finest part in TCAD, and then it's fine, we don't lose any information.
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