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Present ------- Andrea, David, Eddie, Julia, Lionel, Maarten, Mike, Pablo Apologies: Pedro, Marian Minutes taken by Maarten Notes ----- - Ruby templates (e.g. for DAO config) can be hard to debug. - DAO config mentions PNG file name because it is specific to the VO. - Maarten: automatic Puppet runs are risky, may break a working service! Pablo: updates should be tested on the QA cluster before being committed to the production branch all in one go. Still, point taken, to be followed up. - A lot of NCG functionality did not need to get copied into Puppet. - For Nagios boxes more Puppet functionality might still be explored, while other services (e.g. Dashboard) look OK already. - Pablo: slide 18 ready for testing? Mike: yes. - Mike: some "global" parameters on slide 22 still missing in Puppet, e.g. the proxy location. Pablo: some parameters will not be needed. - Mike: sites can also use the Nagios config script, as it is standalone. - Mike: the script may best be kept written in Ruby, so that one can take advantage of Ruby templates e.g. for the WLCG config. - Andrea: what strong points does Ruby have? David: Ruby on Rails web application framework, templates, many things have sensible defaults, ...