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    GIF++ installation and schedule meeting

    → Europe/Zurich
    892/1-D20 (CERN)

    892/1-D20

    CERN

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    Martin Richard Jaekel (CERN), Roberto Guida (CERN)
      • 09:00 → 09:10
        Plan for next wednesday (MD) / thursday (source scan) 10m

        Thursday 10th

        scan: CMS-CSC - pm, ATL-MM -2-6pm

        CMS-DT complete installation (about 1 hour access from 6-7 pm)

        CMS-RPC request a 15 min access: Nicolas, Andrea  and Katerina will discuss and agree on the time. 

        CMS-DT: Jacopo might join the access.

         

         

         

        Wed Nov 16th

        bunker closed

         

         

      • 09:10 → 09:25
        Plan for 2017 15m

        Short description to motivate the request for R&D activity

        CMS-DT plan for 2017.

        4 months (assuming safety factor 3 for HL-LHC and 100% duty cycle of irradiator) of irradiation at absorption factor 15.

        4 options presented by Ignacio:

        1) This winter (about November 2016 to April 2017)

        2) During the June-July 2017 period(compromise ½ of safety factor)

        3) August-September 2017 periods (compromise ½ of safety factor)

        4) Next winter (about November 2017 to April 2018)

         

        ​​CMS-muon community and CMS-DT prefer option 4.

        Preliminary comments:

        ATL-MM (Barbara): upstream, so not affected

        ATL-sTGC (Henso, Yan): not compatible with TGC request, but it might be that TGC ageing test will be completed. It will remain the mass-production test which requires 0.5 day/week (typical time for the source to be at max irradiation will be 0.5 hour/week).

        CMS-CSC (Katerina, Victor): ok for CSC

        EP-DT (Beatrice): no preference. ok

        CMS-GEM (Ilaria): fine with option 4

        CMS-RPC (Nicolas, Andrea): fine with option 4.

        ATL-RPC: not present

        ALT-NSW-MM (Zhen): no preference, but not clear plan for the moment. MM plan is very similar to sTGC.

         

         

         

      • 09:25 → 09:55
        Report about the “half-filter” test 30m

        postponed wed Nov10

        Speakers: Domenico Dattola (Universita e INFN Torino (IT)), Ignacio Redondo Fernandez (Centro de Investigaciones Energéti cas Medioambientales y Tecno)
        SourceScheadule_Gifpp.pdf
        SourceScheadule_Gifpp.pptx

        Update October 20:

        Installation went smooth

        Safety visit ok

        Characterization/data taking on-going

         

         

        Proposal-1

        Install October 19

        Test October 20-21

        Move out October 21

         

        Proposal-2

        Enter on October 19

        Install October 24

        Test October 24-25

        Move out October 26

         

        ATL-TGC (Isabel) not aware of any reason to stop. No preferred proposal.

        CMS-CSC (Katerina) not aware of any reason to stop. No preferred proposal (tbc by tomorrow).

        CMS-DT (Ignacio) supporting the test. small preference for  Proposal-1.

        CMS-GEM (Ilaria) not in the bunker

        ATL-MDT (Bini) not in the bunker

        CMS-RPC (Ian) not aware of any reason to stop. No preferred proposal.

        ATL-MM (Barbara) not in the bunker

        EP-DT (Antonio) not aware of any reason to stop. No preferred proposal.

        ATL-RPC (Giulio) not present

         

        Conclusion:

        Test will be performed next GIF week-time (wed Oct 19-26).

        We wait CSC and RPC to decide between Proposal-1 and Proposal-2

        Half-Filter will be removed right after test will be completed (Max 2 days). 

        Safety inspection for Wed Oct 19.

         

      • 09:55 → 10:10
        Iteration of new requests for tests at GIF 15m

        introduction, goal of the test, plan, needs

        Proposals discussed.

        Everybody confirmed to not see any problem with both installations as long as they were presented and do not interfere with current R&D test at GIF

        • ATL-CSC 5m
          Speaker: Cenk Yildiz (University of California Irvine (US))

          CSC are installed on the side of CMS-GlassRPC ("U2")

          Connected to gas and HV. 

          In the bunker until March/April 2017

           

           

          Hi Roberto,

          We are planning some more tests with the Atlas CSC chamber in 2017.

          We will be repairing two chambers and want to test them before reinstallation in February or March. Each chamber needs only one or two days close to the source. Will there be time available for this test?
           

          Regards,

          Michael Schernau

           

           

          requested position: on the side of the Glass-RPC rack. To be discussed (after April RPC will probably replace the present rack with larger one).

           

        • AIDA2020-radiocromich film 5m
          Speaker: Francesco Fienga (Universita e INFN, Napoli (IT))

          On-site check next week.

          Installation postponed. Setup not ready.

        • Irradiation of optical fiber Belle II - PID 5m

          installation scheduled for November 17 or 24

          Speaker: Ezio Torassa (Universita e INFN, Padova (IT))
          RadTest2016.pdf
          RadTest2016.pptx

          Installation:

          preparation Wednesday November 16. Tentative installation for Wednesday evening (about 6-7 pm)

          In case not completed, 1 more hour on Thursday pm (2pm).

      • 10:10 → 10:20
        Material door: EN proposal 10m
        Portes_coulissante_GIF.pdf
        Portes_coulissante_GIF.pptx
      • 10:20 → 10:30
        Announcement 10m

        1) Maintenance of the irradiator: end of March - 3 days. Nobody see problems/conflicts

        2) Commissioning of the gas detection: last part of EYETS - 1 week "full" stop of GIF. Proposed to join with maintenance of the irradiator

        3) Installation of upstream XTDV table: requested to install first week 2017 (possibly while waiting for gas supply/detection to be restarted)

        4) INFN-AIDA film: Friday 18th. Probably GIF off during morning (9am-2pm)