Sum up from Jonathan’s presentation
Each LIU BWS control drive (IDC=Intelligent Drive Control unit) hosts 4 main boards:
1-VFC
2-Mezzanine BWSAIF (mounted on the VFC)
3-Motor inverter BWSMIB
4-Charger BWSCPC
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Original plan (in line with pre-Covid-19 injectors master plan):
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Produce PCBs, assemble boards, test individually and then as whole unit for 10 Pre-series units (10=8 for PSB + 2 for FW and SW development)
-
After pre-series validation: produce PCBs and mount series (40 units for PS, SPS, ESS + spares)
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Table summarising costs
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excluding mezzanine: PCB production and assembly ~= 31k (money lost if need to redesign not working)
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decision on Mezzanine BWSAIF go ahead ~independent from other two cards, but: latest version not fully tested, some risk remains)
-
Work advancement ok until Feb
-
individual boards tests ~completed
-
at the moment of testing full IDC: repeated (6 times) problem with BWSCPC when controlled (as by design) by inverter BWSMIB
-
Only when controlled by BWSMIB (i.e. charger proved several time to work when controlled by external circuit, BWSMIB always there to invert)
-
Happens after few seconds of operation
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burning of Flyback shunt, MOSFET and driver
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after extensive investigations and tests: problem traced back to a sum of design flaws, control link between B WSCPC and BWSMIB not functional.
-
put in place TEST SETUP in which control link between two boards is cut, external (timed) relay used to enable charger, fast discharge resistor to simulate discharging during a scan
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last two days at CERN (Miguel): 150 charge-discharge cycles without problems (without motor connected)
Discussion on technical part
-
look at existing commercial products
-
look at companies available to make custom made solutions even for a small series
-
look at CERN TE-EPC designs
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Manfred argues on conceptual design, starting from 3-phase conversion instead of using transformer.
-
Enrico’s comment in favour of compact design can work: we have high peak powers but for short times.
-
General agreement on that ‘conventional' (non-switching) charging via transformer would work, but one of the key points of the project is to have a compact system.
-
David argues on that in TEST SETUP the relay acting on the fast discharging resistor may suffer of high peak power flow (I think whit was the point…)
-
Answer: will not be there when motor connected. Only here to simulate load
-
General agreement (?):
-
Continue in parallel with re-design studies
-
Extensive tests: long cables, heating, go back to full IDC test with all different control settings (speeds, rep. rate etc…)
-
Minimal test: repeat test with real motor as load
-
‘TEST SETUP' solution (cut inverter-charger CTRL link, charger enabled by external relay or enabled all the time is plugged) could work. But we need to complete validation.
Discussion on planning, schedule, budget
-
Main question:
-
Reminder: money possibly wasted if production finished =31k (table above) when considering inverter and charger
-
Can’t answer today, but meeting was very useful, we need to re-iterate possibly with in hand PSB - PS tentative planning and BI-PM plan for lab tests
-
do we go ahead with series production (=PCB fabrication & mounting and then reception/tests) before fully testing ’test setup’ solution above?
Jonathan’s delays estimate of series production from go-ahead day:
Design Office
1) + 3 weeks min. for standard PCB production
2) + 1 month min. assembly + transport abroad!
Reception by BE-BI-PM
3) + 40 days work BWSAIF tests
4) + 40 days work BWSMIB & BWSCPC tests
5) + 60 days for assembly of complete units (2 days per unit)
6) + 40 days of complete IDC crate under heavy operation
is hardly compatible with PS schedule as known today
-
Consult TE-EPC on charger advise and/or existing designs (Jonathan, Miguel)
-
LS2 committee on Friday: see if any news on schedule (Ray)
-
Investigate option of installing less then 8 systems in the PSB in favour of at least 1H+1V in the PS (Federico, Jonathan, Ray, Ana)
-
Define steps and milestones to declare ’TEST SETUP’ viable at least for PSB (pre-series) (Jonathan, Miguel, Ervin)
-
…
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Heating
-
Different settings (scan speed, rep rate)
-
Charging / discharging cycles with motor connected
-
All this high priority for BI-PM: study if and how we can restart as soon CERN is at least partially re-open. (Federico)
-
….
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No FSUs (?)
-
Respect instructions by health authorities (e.g. max number of people, distances)
-
Probable constraints:
-
Investigate with design office (Jonathan via William V ?)
-
~Real cost of speeding up production (e.g. going to local - more expensive - companies)
-
If production delays affected by present worldwide situation
-
Continue with charger re-design studies (Ervin, Jonathan, Miguel)
-
This includes looking for commercial solutions or companies available for custom made solutions
-
Among already purchased components purchased for inverter/chargers : are there class of components likely re-usable for future projects? (PM engineers)
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Sum up from Jonathan’s presentation
Each LIU BWS control drive (IDC=Intelligent Drive Control unit) hosts 4 main boards:
1-VFC
2-Mezzanine BWSAIF (mounted on the VFC)
3-Motor inverter BWSMIB
4-Charger BWSCPC
-
Original plan (in line with pre-Covid-19 injectors master plan):
-
Produce PCBs, assemble boards, test individually and then as whole unit for 10 Pre-series units (10=8 for PSB + 2 for FW and SW development)
-
After pre-series validation: produce PCBs and mount series (40 units for PS, SPS, ESS + spares)
-
Table summarising costs
-
excluding mezzanine: PCB production and assembly ~= 31k (money lost if need to redesign not working)
-
decision on Mezzanine BWSAIF go ahead ~independent from other two cards, but: latest version not fully tested, some risk remains)
-
Work advancement ok until Feb
-
individual boards tests ~completed
-
at the moment of testing full IDC: repeated (6 times) problem with BWSCPC when controlled (as by design) by inverter BWSMIB
-
Only when controlled by BWSMIB (i.e. charger proved several time to work when controlled by external circuit, BWSMIB always there to invert)
-
Happens after few seconds of operation
-
burning of Flyback shunt, MOSFET and driver
-
after extensive investigations and tests: problem traced back to a sum of design flaws, control link between B WSCPC and BWSMIB not functional.
-
put in place TEST SETUP in which control link between two boards is cut, external (timed) relay used to enable charger, fast discharge resistor to simulate discharging during a scan
-
last two days at CERN (Miguel): 150 charge-discharge cycles without problems (without motor connected)
Discussion on technical part
-
look at existing commercial products
-
look at companies available to make custom made solutions even for a small series
-
look at CERN TE-EPC designs
-
Manfred argues on conceptual design, starting from 3-phase conversion instead of using transformer.
-
Enrico’s comment in favour of compact design can work: we have high peak powers but for short times.
-
General agreement on that ‘conventional' (non-switching) charging via transformer would work, but one of the key points of the project is to have a compact system.
-
David argues on that in TEST SETUP the relay acting on the fast discharging resistor may suffer of high peak power flow (I think whit was the point…)
-
Answer: will not be there when motor connected. Only here to simulate load
-
General agreement (?):
-
Continue in parallel with re-design studies
-
Extensive tests: long cables, heating, go back to full IDC test with all different control settings (speeds, rep. rate etc…)
-
Minimal test: repeat test with real motor as load
-
‘TEST SETUP' solution (cut inverter-charger CTRL link, charger enabled by external relay or enabled all the time is plugged) could work. But we need to complete validation.
Discussion on planning, schedule, budget
-
Main question:
-
Reminder: money possibly wasted if production finished =31k (table above) when considering inverter and charger
-
Can’t answer today, but meeting was very useful, we need to re-iterate possibly with in hand PSB - PS tentative planning and BI-PM plan for lab tests
-
do we go ahead with series production (=PCB fabrication & mounting and then reception/tests) before fully testing ’test setup’ solution above?
Jonathan’s delays estimate of series production from go-ahead day:
Design Office
1) + 3 weeks min. for standard PCB production
2) + 1 month min. assembly + transport abroad!
Reception by BE-BI-PM
3) + 40 days work BWSAIF tests
4) + 40 days work BWSMIB & BWSCPC tests
5) + 60 days for assembly of complete units (2 days per unit)
6) + 40 days of complete IDC crate under heavy operation
is hardly compatible with PS schedule as known today
-
Consult TE-EPC on charger advise and/or existing designs (Jonathan, Miguel)
-
LS2 committee on Friday: see if any news on schedule (Ray)
-
Investigate option of installing less then 8 systems in the PSB in favour of at least 1H+1V in the PS (Federico, Jonathan, Ray, Ana)
-
Define steps and milestones to declare ’TEST SETUP’ viable at least for PSB (pre-series) (Jonathan, Miguel, Ervin)
-
…
-
Heating
-
Different settings (scan speed, rep rate)
-
Charging / discharging cycles with motor connected
-
All this high priority for BI-PM: study if and how we can restart as soon CERN is at least partially re-open. (Federico)
-
….
-
No FSUs (?)
-
Respect instructions by health authorities (e.g. max number of people, distances)
-
Probable constraints:s
-
Investigate with design office (Jonathan via William V ?)
-
~Real cost of speeding up production (e.g. going to local - more expensive - companies)
-
If production delays affected by present worldwide situation
-
Continue with charger re-design studies (Ervin, Jonathan, Miguel)
-
This includes looking for commercial solutions or companies available for custom made solutions
-
Among already purchased components purchased for inverter/chargers : are there class of components likely re-usable for future projects? (PM engineers)
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