Adhoc BI-TB for LIU BWS power electronics

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    • 11:00 → 11:30
      Power electronics for LIU-BWS 30m
      Speakers: Federico Roncarolo (CERN), Jonathan Emery (CERN)
       

      Sum up from Jonathan’s presentation
       
      Each LIU BWS control drive (IDC=Intelligent Drive Control unit) hosts 4 main boards: 
       
      1-VFC 
      2-Mezzanine BWSAIF (mounted on the VFC)
      3-Motor inverter BWSMIB
      4-Charger BWSCPC 
      • VFCs are of course part of the BI production and stock
      • Components for ALL other cards are procured already
      • Original plan (in line with pre-Covid-19 injectors master plan):
      • Produce PCBs, assemble boards, test individually and then as whole unit  for 10 Pre-series units (10=8 for PSB + 2 for FW and SW development)
      • After pre-series validation: produce PCBs and mount series (40 units for PS, SPS, ESS + spares)
      • Table summarising costs 
      • excluding mezzanine: PCB production and assembly  ~= 31k (money lost if need to redesign not working)
      • decision on Mezzanine BWSAIF  go ahead ~independent from other two cards, but: latest version not fully tested, some risk remains)
       
       
      • Work advancement ok until Feb
      • individual boards tests ~completed
      • at the moment of testing full IDC: repeated (6 times) problem with BWSCPC when controlled (as by design) by inverter BWSMIB
      • Only when controlled by BWSMIB (i.e. charger proved several time to work when controlled by external circuit, BWSMIB always there to invert)
      • Happens after few seconds of operation
      • burning of Flyback shunt, MOSFET and driver
      • after extensive investigations and tests: problem traced back to a sum of design flaws, control link between B WSCPC and BWSMIB not functional.
      • put in place TEST SETUP  in which control link between two boards is cut, external (timed) relay used to enable charger, fast discharge resistor to simulate discharging during a scan
      • last two days at CERN (Miguel): 150 charge-discharge cycles without problems (without motor connected) 
       
      • Long term option: Redesign of BWCCPC based on alternative topology (mostly Ervin so far)
       
       
       

      Discussion on technical part
       
      • Enrico suggests to investigate AC/DC converter on the market before embarking into new design
      1. look at existing commercial products
      2. look at companies available to make custom made solutions even for a small series 
      3. look at CERN TE-EPC designs 
       
      • Ervin’s  work already going into direction of first two points, 3rd point to be addressed, TE-EPC to be consulted ASAP   
       
      • Manfred argues on conceptual design, starting from 3-phase conversion instead of using transformer.
      • Enrico’s comment in favour of compact design can work: we have high peak powers but for short times.
      • General agreement on that ‘conventional' (non-switching) charging via transformer would work, but one of the key points of the project is to have a compact system.
       
      • David argues on that in TEST SETUP the relay acting on the fast discharging resistor may suffer of high peak power flow (I think whit was the point…)
      • Answer: will not be there when motor connected. Only here to simulate load 
       
      • General agreement (?):
      • Continue in parallel with re-design studies 
      • Extensive tests: long cables, heating, go back to full IDC test with all different control settings (speeds, rep. rate etc…)
      • Minimal test: repeat test with real motor as load
      • ‘TEST SETUP' solution (cut inverter-charger CTRL link, charger enabled by external relay or enabled all the time is plugged) could work. But we need to complete validation.
       

      Discussion on planning, schedule, budget
       
      • Main question:
      • Reminder: money possibly wasted if production finished =31k (table above) when considering inverter and charger
      • Can’t answer today, but meeting was very useful, we need to re-iterate possibly with in hand PSB - PS tentative planning and BI-PM plan for lab tests
      • do we go ahead with series production (=PCB fabrication & mounting and then reception/tests) before fully testing ’test setup’ solution above?
       
      • Fact 1:
                Jonathan’s delays estimate of series production from go-ahead day:
              Design Office
                  1) + 3 weeks min. for standard PCB production 
                  2) + 1 month min. assembly + transport abroad! 
              Reception by BE-BI-PM
                  3) + 40 days work BWSAIF tests
                  4) + 40 days work BWSMIB & BWSCPC tests
                  5) + 60 days for assembly of complete units (2 days per unit)
                  6) + 40 days of complete IDC crate under heavy operation
      is hardly compatible with PS schedule as known today 
       
      • Fact 2: In case of re-design: it is very likely that many of the already purchased components will not be needed 
      • Fact 3: CERN with higher priority w.r.t. ESS
       
      • Next actions:
      • Consult TE-EPC on charger advise and/or existing designs (Jonathan, Miguel)
      • LS2 committee on Friday: see if any news on schedule (Ray)
      • Investigate option of installing less then 8 systems in the PSB in favour of at least 1H+1V in the PS (Federico, Jonathan, Ray, Ana)
      • Define steps and milestones to declare ’TEST SETUP’ viable at least for PSB (pre-series) (Jonathan, Miguel, Ervin)
      • …  
      • Heating
      • Different settings (scan speed, rep rate)
      • Charging / discharging cycles with motor connected
      • All this high  priority for BI-PM: study if and how we can restart as soon CERN is at least partially re-open. (Federico)
      • ….
      • No FSUs (?)
      • Respect instructions by health authorities (e.g. max number of people, distances)
      • Probable constraints:
      • Investigate with design office (Jonathan via William V ?)
      • ~Real cost of speeding up production (e.g. going to local - more expensive - companies) 
      • If production delays affected by present worldwide situation
      • Continue with charger re-design studies (Ervin, Jonathan, Miguel)
      • This includes looking for commercial solutions or companies available for custom made solutions
      • Among already purchased components purchased for inverter/chargers : are there class of components likely re-usable for future projects? (PM engineers)
       
       

       
       
       

      Sum up from Jonathan’s presentation
       
      Each LIU BWS control drive (IDC=Intelligent Drive Control unit) hosts 4 main boards: 
       
      1-VFC 
      2-Mezzanine BWSAIF (mounted on the VFC)
      3-Motor inverter BWSMIB
      4-Charger BWSCPC 
      • VFCs are of course part of the BI production and stock
      • Components for ALL other cards are procured already
      • Original plan (in line with pre-Covid-19 injectors master plan):
      • Produce PCBs, assemble boards, test individually and then as whole unit  for 10 Pre-series units (10=8 for PSB + 2 for FW and SW development)
      • After pre-series validation: produce PCBs and mount series (40 units for PS, SPS, ESS + spares)
      • Table summarising costs 
      • excluding mezzanine: PCB production and assembly  ~= 31k (money lost if need to redesign not working)
      • decision on Mezzanine BWSAIF  go ahead ~independent from other two cards, but: latest version not fully tested, some risk remains)
       
       
      • Work advancement ok until Feb
      • individual boards tests ~completed
      • at the moment of testing full IDC: repeated (6 times) problem with BWSCPC when controlled (as by design) by inverter BWSMIB
      • Only when controlled by BWSMIB (i.e. charger proved several time to work when controlled by external circuit, BWSMIB always there to invert)
      • Happens after few seconds of operation
      • burning of Flyback shunt, MOSFET and driver
      • after extensive investigations and tests: problem traced back to a sum of design flaws, control link between B WSCPC and BWSMIB not functional.
      • put in place TEST SETUP  in which control link between two boards is cut, external (timed) relay used to enable charger, fast discharge resistor to simulate discharging during a scan
      • last two days at CERN (Miguel): 150 charge-discharge cycles without problems (without motor connected) 
       
      • Long term option: Redesign of BWCCPC based on alternative topology (mostly Ervin so far)
       
       
       

      Discussion on technical part
       
      • Enrico suggests to investigate AC/DC converter on the market before embarking into new design
      1. look at existing commercial products
      2. look at companies available to make custom made solutions even for a small series 
      3. look at CERN TE-EPC designs 
       
      • Ervin’s  work already going into direction of first two points, 3rd point to be addressed, TE-EPC to be consulted ASAP   
       
      • Manfred argues on conceptual design, starting from 3-phase conversion instead of using transformer.
      • Enrico’s comment in favour of compact design can work: we have high peak powers but for short times.
      • General agreement on that ‘conventional' (non-switching) charging via transformer would work, but one of the key points of the project is to have a compact system.
       
      • David argues on that in TEST SETUP the relay acting on the fast discharging resistor may suffer of high peak power flow (I think whit was the point…)
      • Answer: will not be there when motor connected. Only here to simulate load 
       
      • General agreement (?):
      • Continue in parallel with re-design studies 
      • Extensive tests: long cables, heating, go back to full IDC test with all different control settings (speeds, rep. rate etc…)
      • Minimal test: repeat test with real motor as load
      • ‘TEST SETUP' solution (cut inverter-charger CTRL link, charger enabled by external relay or enabled all the time is plugged) could work. But we need to complete validation.
       

      Discussion on planning, schedule, budget
       
      • Main question:
      • Reminder: money possibly wasted if production finished =31k (table above) when considering inverter and charger
      • Can’t answer today, but meeting was very useful, we need to re-iterate possibly with in hand PSB - PS tentative planning and BI-PM plan for lab tests
      • do we go ahead with series production (=PCB fabrication & mounting and then reception/tests) before fully testing ’test setup’ solution above?
       
      • Fact 1:
                Jonathan’s delays estimate of series production from go-ahead day:
              Design Office
                  1) + 3 weeks min. for standard PCB production 
                  2) + 1 month min. assembly + transport abroad! 
              Reception by BE-BI-PM
                  3) + 40 days work BWSAIF tests
                  4) + 40 days work BWSMIB & BWSCPC tests
                  5) + 60 days for assembly of complete units (2 days per unit)
                  6) + 40 days of complete IDC crate under heavy operation
      is hardly compatible with PS schedule as known today 
       
      • Fact 2: In case of re-design: it is very likely that many of the already purchased components will not be needed 
      • Fact 3: CERN with higher priority w.r.t. ESS
       
      • Next actions:
      • Consult TE-EPC on charger advise and/or existing designs (Jonathan, Miguel)
      • LS2 committee on Friday: see if any news on schedule (Ray)
      • Investigate option of installing less then 8 systems in the PSB in favour of at least 1H+1V in the PS (Federico, Jonathan, Ray, Ana)
      • Define steps and milestones to declare ’TEST SETUP’ viable at least for PSB (pre-series) (Jonathan, Miguel, Ervin)
      • …  
      • Heating
      • Different settings (scan speed, rep rate)
      • Charging / discharging cycles with motor connected
      • All this high  priority for BI-PM: study if and how we can restart as soon CERN is at least partially re-open. (Federico)
      • ….
      • No FSUs (?)
      • Respect instructions by health authorities (e.g. max number of people, distances)
      • Probable constraints:s
      • Investigate with design office (Jonathan via William V ?)
      • ~Real cost of speeding up production (e.g. going to local - more expensive - companies) 
      • If production delays affected by present worldwide situation
      • Continue with charger re-design studies (Ervin, Jonathan, Miguel)
      • This includes looking for commercial solutions or companies available for custom made solutions
      • Among already purchased components purchased for inverter/chargers : are there class of components likely re-usable for future projects? (PM engineers)
       
       

       
       
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