WLCG Management Board #328

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Simone Campana (CERN)
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    • 16:00 16:10
      Minutes and Matters Arising 10m
      • News from the CB 5m
        Speaker: Simone Campana (CERN)

        Achim Streit from KIT has been elected as the chair of the WLCG Collaboration Board. Congratulations to Achim. Also, many thanks to Roger for serving as the chair of the CB for 15 years!

        We will have the next CB during the WLCG Workshop in Orsay. The CB welcomes suggestions about topics to discuss. On my list: 

        • We (the MB) drafted a proposal explaining the process that a site should follow when stopping providing resources to WLCG. Needs CB endorsement
        • Follow up from the last LHCONE meeting. Use of LHCONE by non-LHC communities (other than WLCG partners).

         

        Please provide more input (email to lcg.office@cern.ch) and we will make sure it will be brought to the attention of the MB 

         

      • EGI request for a letter of support for the ESFRI application 5m
        Speaker: Simone Campana (CERN)

        From Sergio Andreozzi (EGI) to the EGI Council 

         

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        Dear Council Representatives, 

        In relation to the preparation of an ESFRI application for the EGI Federation, last November, I wrote direct emails to provide information on how to request political and financial support (see email subject: "EGI Application to ESFRI: How to request national support from...").

        We have received questions about templates to be used for expression of political support or financial commitment. The EC ESFRI Team does not provide any template nor specific requirements, therefore we have prepared additional information based on the current practices in the Netherlands. 

        To make it easy to retrieve the current and future information, we have prepared an information page that we will keep updated: https://confluence.egi.eu/display/CD/ESFRI+Roadmap+2026
         
        In this page, you can find: 
        - EGI short paper (3 pages) motivating the reason to join the ESFRI roadmap and requesting support
        - Template letter for the Expression Of financial Commitment (EOC) 
        - Aspects to be covered on the Expression Of political Support (EOS) 
        - Template emails to contact the ESFRI delegates
         
        We appreciate your effort to help us strengthen the application with more support letters. 
         
        Please, let us know if you need further information or support by writing to esfri@egi.eu.
         
        Kind regards, Sergio
         
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        Additional information from Tiziana Ferrari and Sergio Andreozzi (EGI) 
         
        Dear Colleagues

        The status as of today of the support letters is as follows:

        - 10 letters signed to date (8 political, 2 financial)
        - 8 letters under signature (5 political, 3 financial)
        - 11 letters in negotiation phase (5 political, 6 financial)

        We are continuing the gathering of scientific support letters from
        Research Infrastructures.

        TIMELINE

        - 04 April: finalised application ready for submission, including signed
        letters available by then
        - 08 April: online submission
        - from 09 April: continue gathering letters, these will be presented at
        the hearing stage

        ACTIONS

        * Consider submitting a financial support letter as Council
        representative (the financial support letter can be signed by any
        entity, while the political letter can only come from the ministry, the
        duration of the commitment can be 5 years or another duration of choice,
        see template here [1])

        * Update us on status of the process during this week if you didn't already.

        * If obtaining a political support letter is not possible, please 
        consider submitting a scientific support letter in your own capacity as
        NGI or through one of the research communities you participate in. See
        the scientific support letter template in attachment.

        Thank you for your support,
        Tiziana and Sergio
         
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    • 16:10 16:15
      Action List Review 5m
    • 16:15 16:25
      WLCG Service Report 10m
      Speakers: Panos Paparrigopoulos (CERN), Maarten Litmaath (CERN)
    • 16:25 16:35
      TCB report 10m
      Speakers: Alessandro Di Girolamo (CERN), James Letts (Univ. of California San Diego (US))

      TCB Report on Tuesday, April 15, 2025 for WLCG MB#328

      WLCG held OTF#4 hosted at the HEPiX Workshop in Lugano on Tuesday, April 1st. The scope of the session was to deepen the strong connection between WLCG and the facilities and explore the main issues about facilities that should be addressed in the WLCG Technical Roadmap. We learned that many of the R&D efforts ongoing are focused on understanding analysis use cases including user support needs as a key pillar. We heard from Italy, Germany, Spain, and US ATLAS about plans for distributing or concentrating compute and storage and integrating HPC resources. The UK does not have HPC capacity at this time but would find concrete requirements from the experiments useful to help argue for funding. US ATLAS has moved in the direction of using OpenShift/OKD for more automated site management, enabling job submission through K8S API, as well as deploying tape to a Tier-2, and considering the possibility to serve also user analysis. There are many efforts to optimize data placement and data and workflow management on heterogeneous and distributed architectures. Proliferation of differing interfaces and access policies at HPC facilities is seen as a challenge, the nature of the HPCs (constantly pushing the technologies limits) implies the need to foresee expertise in our community to integrate them. Security implications of new infrastructures and authentication methods were discussed.

      The third meeting of the TCB (TCB#3) meeting was held on Tuesday, April 8th, to discuss the skeleton outline of the WCLG Technical Roadmap and the list of topics, as well as the scope of the document. We will have a three-hour session in the WLCG/HSF Workshop dedicated to the TCB activities and the Technical Roadmap. More on the workshop preparations can be found in the following agenda item.

    • 16:35 16:45
      WLCG/HSF workshop agenda 10m
      Speakers: Alessandro Di Girolamo (CERN), James Letts (Univ. of California San Diego (US)), Julia Andreeva (CERN), Maarten Litmaath (CERN)
    • 16:45 16:50
      AOB 5m
      • Next MB Meeting: Tuesday 20 May 2025 1m